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  • Profar

    40 44.44%
  • Taveras

    28 31.11%
  • Other (Post)

    22 24.44%
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    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...41183398&c_id=

    getting to the big boys now.... First base

    1. Jonathan Singleton, Astros: Originally drafted in the eighth round in 2009 by the Phillies,who signed him away from attending Long Beach State. Potentially blocked by Ryan Howard, the Phillies tried Singleton in the outfield, but when they dealt him to Houston in the '11 Hunter Pence deal, Singleton moved back to first, a better spot for him defensively. He has the ability to hit for average and get on-base, and the power has started to come. Singleton will begin the season serving a 50-game suspension for a marijuana suspension, but he will be allowed to play in spring games and is expected to have a good shot at the Majors if he continues to produce.

    2. Matt Adams, Cardinals: Wherever he has gone, Adams has raked, hitting .300 or better at every Minor League stop since the Cardinals made him a 23rd-round pick in 2009 out of Slippery Rock University. The 2011 Texas League Player of the Year, Adams made his big league debut this past season and hit well in Triple-A, though an elbow injury interrupted his season. He's fine at first base, but it's Adams' bat that will land him a big-league job.

    3. Hunter Morris, Brewers: Drafted out of Auburn in the fourth round in 2010, Morris has not disappointed in terms of living up to his offensive profile. The left-handed hitter has tapped into his raw power in each of his two full pro seasons, hitting 48 home runs in that span and winning the Southern League MVP Award last season. He's an acceptable defender at first base, but it's really his bat that will get him to the big leagues.

    4. C.J. Cron, Angels: One of the better advanced college hitters in the 2011 Draft class, this University of Utah product did not disappoint in his first full season. The first-round pick led the Minors in RBIs last season, as his pitch recognition and pure hitting skills played well in the hitting-friendly California League. The son of Minor League manager Chris Cron, C.J. has had some injury issues in the past –- a torn labrum and a bad knee –- but while they will limit him to life as a first baseman, they haven't kept him from swinging a hot bat.

    5. Darin Ruf, Phillies: When you're taken in the 20th round of the Draft as a college senior -- as Ruf was in 2009 out of Creighton -- the expectations aren't going to be all that high. It's safe to say Ruf already exceeded them by reaching the big leagues last season after leading the Minors in home runs. While he's played more first than anywhere, Ruf has seen time in left field as well, his flexibility adding to his value at the big-league level.

    6. Matthew Olson, A's: The Georgia high school product came from the top-ranked prep program in the nation and was taken 47th overall last year. A two-way standout in high school, he would have continued hitting and pitching if he hadn't been signed away from Vanderbilt. The left-handed hitter is a good pure hitter who was already showing more power as a professional than expected at the start of his career. A third baseman as an amateur, he should be just fine at the other corner for the long-term as a run-producing first baseman.

    7. Alex Dickerson, Pirates: An excellent college performer at Indiana, the Pirates took Dickerson's bat in the third round in 2011 and sent him right to the advanced Class A Florida State League for his full-season debut last year. His advanced hitting skills played just fine there, and he should hit for average and power going forward. The lefty didn't appear to have a defensive home coming out of college, but he's settled in nicely at first base, where he should profile well as a run-producer in the future.

    8. Dan Vogelbach, Cubs: When Vogelbach was an amateur, he created a good amount of buzz with his left-handed power bat. Vogelbach has not disappointed as a pro after the Cubs took him in the second round in 2011. He has as much raw pop as anyone in the Minors at this position and can hit the ball out to all fields. Vogelbach has an advanced approach that has allowed him to get on base and hit for average. He was very out of shape in high school, but has worked hard to slim down since signing, something he will have to continue to do as his bat propels him up the organizational ladder.

    9. Keon Barnum, White Sox: There's nothing better than making a strong first impression. That's exactly what Barnum, a supplemental first-round pick of the White Sox in 2012 from the Tampa high school ranks, did after signing quickly. The big, strong left-handed hitter homered in three of his first four games before going down with a shoulder injury. Barnum did make it back in August for a brief spell. When he's healthy, the first baseman has tremendous bat speed which allows him to drive the ball to all parts of the ballpark. He should be able to hit it out of any ballpark in any direction as he refines his approach, though there will always be some swing-and-miss to his game. Barnum has the chance to develop into the kind of power-hitting run producer that profiles very well at first base.

    10. Chris Marrero, Nationals: Marrero worked hard, moving up the Nats' ladder slowly after being a first-round pick out of high school back in 2006. He made it to the big leagues in '11 and looked just about ready to get a full-time shot in Washington last season. A torn hamstring cost him that opportunity, though he eventually did make it back to Triple-A. He's always had decent bat speed with some raw power and there's still time for him to show it more consistently in games.
    I obviously like Adams at 2 but he wont get an opportunity with the Cards unless an injury happens or they wanna carry him on the bench for PH situations and to play 1B during interleague play

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    1B is terrible. Vogelbach could be in the top half pretty easily with a good showing in Kane County.

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    Top 10 prospects in baseball

    Anyone want to make comps to current or past MLB players?

    As in what the player will do

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    No order and really nonsense:

    Taveras - '97/'98 Jim Edmonds
    Baez - RH Robinson Cano
    Myers - RH Shawn Green
    Skaggs - Chuck Finley
    Miller - Javier Vazquez
    Profrar - 2003 Orlando Cabrera
    Bundy - Mike Mussina
    Fernandez - Bartolo Colon
    Bogaerts - Miguel TeChavez
    Cole - 2011 Justin Masterson

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    I still don't see the Edmonds comp for Taveras.

    I'd like to see it happen, but I just don't see the comp.

    I like your other comps though.

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    Singleton and crap

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    Once Vogelbach hits full season ball he's going to rocket up this list. I fully expect him to be solidly inside the top 100 come 2014 with an outside shot of being around #50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    No order and really nonsense:

    Taveras - '97/'98 Jim Edmonds
    Baez - RH Robinson Cano
    Myers - RH Shawn Green
    Skaggs - Chuck Finley
    Miller - Javier Vazquez
    Profrar - 2003 Orlando Cabrera
    Bundy - Mike Mussina
    Fernandez - Bartolo Colon
    Bogaerts - Miguel TeChavez
    Cole - 2011 Justin Masterson
    I'm going to compare Bundy to Pedro Martinez. Both shorter guys, but workhorse frames with a consistent delivery and electric stuff. I don;t ever recall Mussina throwing 98 MPH.

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    Someone should make a quick guide to making terrible, overused comps.

    If...

    A RHP prospect is short and throws hard - Pedro Martinez!
    A 1B/DH with a lot of power that is prone to K's - Adam Dunn!
    A free swinging prospect who homers and never walks - Vlad!

    Am I missing any? Those are by far the three most thrown around ones IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VRP723 View Post
    Someone should make a quick guide to making terrible, overused comps.

    If...

    A RHP prospect is short and throws hard - Pedro Martinez!
    A 1B/DH with a lot of power that is prone to K's - Adam Dunn!
    A free swinging prospect who homers and never walks - Vlad!

    Am I missing any? Those are by far the three most thrown around ones IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VRP723 View Post
    Someone should make a quick guide to making terrible, overused comps.

    If...

    A RHP prospect is short and throws hard - Pedro Martinez!
    A 1B/DH with a lot of power that is prone to K's - Adam Dunn!
    A free swinging prospect who homers and never walks - Vlad!

    Am I missing any? Those are by far the three most thrown around ones IMO.
    Pretty much.

    For every Adam Dunn though, there are several Jack Custs in the world.


    I think it also depends on the position.

    I think the better way of doing it would be for everyone to post what they believe a players career slash line would look like (or for a pitcher K/BB/HR rates) as well what they believe their peak would look like.

    Then you'd have interesting comps because you could find players that fit those numbers.


    For example.

    I believe Taveras while he could play center, will end up in right as a +5 defensive right fielder
    I am betting on a career slash line of .300/.350/.475. but with a peak slash line of .330/.390/.550

    With a slowly regressing outfield defense like everyone else, and he'll have some 20 SB seasons mixed in there, but not a ton.

    Who fits?

    That's a little worse than Roberto Clemente (and not the defensive value)

    It also fits Bing Miller and Johnny Frederick and Shawn Green (good job Gato ) as well shades of Tony Olivio

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    Quote Originally Posted by VRP723 View Post
    Someone should make a quick guide to making terrible, overused comps.

    If...

    A RHP prospect is short and throws hard - Pedro Martinez!
    A 1B/DH with a lot of power that is prone to K's - Adam Dunn!
    A free swinging prospect who homers and never walks - Vlad!

    Am I missing any? Those are by far the three most thrown around ones IMO.
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    Fat chick with a very well shaped beard with weight control issues:

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    Outfielders

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    1. Oscar Taveras, Cardinals: The Cardinals' signing of Taveras out of the Dominican Republic in 2008 for a mere $145,000 could go down as one the biggest bargains in recent memory. Perhaps the best pure hitter in the Minors, Taveras handled a double jump to Double-A last season by going to the Futures Game and earning Texas League Player of the Year honors. Taveras has done nothing but hit for plenty of average, and the power continues to come, along with improved plate discipline. He has everything to be an All-Star-caliber outfielder who hits in the middle of a big league lineup for years.

    2. Wil Myers, Rays: Myers was initially drafted as a catcher by Kansas City in the third round in 2009, and the Royals signed him to an over-slot deal to keep him from attending South Carolina. He was moved to the outfield after a year behind the plate, but 2011 was more or less a bust. He bounced back in a huge way last season, though, going to the Futures Game and finishing second in the Minors in home runs before being traded to Tampa Bay this past offseason in the James Shields deal. His offense, replete with plus bat speed and outstanding on-base skills, is big league ready. He's played a lot of center field, but he should put up the kind of numbers typically expected of a top-flight corner outfielder.

    3. Billy Hamilton, Reds: Hamilton was a shortstop until last fall, when he made the long-expected move to center field in the Arizona Fall League. The 2009 second-round pick was settling in nicely to his new environment, with his plus-plus speed allowing him to outrun any mistakes as he learned how to read the ball off the bat and get better jumps. That outstanding speed makes him perhaps the most exciting player at any level, and the one who broke the professional single-season stolen-base record last season with 155. He'll become a better and better leadoff hitter as he continues to hone his on-base skills.

    4. Christian Yelich, Marlins: When the Marlins drafted Yelich No. 23 overall in 2010, they thought they were getting one of the purest high school hitters among that year's draftees. A participant in both the Futures Game and the Arizona Fall League Rising Stars Game in 2012, Yelich hasn't disappointed. The Southern California product, a left-handed hitter, has an advanced approach at the plate, with a skill set that could lead to batting titles. The power has started to show up, too, and he has the speed to be a legitimate base-stealing threat as well as a solid center fielder.

    5. Byron Buxton, Twins: The Twins were thrilled when the Astros didn't take Buxton No. 1 overall last year, allowing them to draft the potential five-tool threat with the second pick. The Georgia high school product has the kind of speed that can be a game changer on the basepaths and in center field. Buxton has a great line-drive stroke with much more power to grow into as he matures. All he needs is time and experience. The sky might be the limit.

    6. Nick Castellanos, Tigers: When the Tigers gave Castellanos a record bonus for a sandwich pick in 2010, they believed he had first-round talent. He hasn't disappointed, reaching Double-A at age 20 and winning the Futures Game MVP Award. A terrific pure hitter, he's the type of player who could compete for batting titles one day, and the power will continue to come as he matures. A shortstop in high school, Castellanos initially moved to third, then made a smooth transition to the outfield. Wherever he plays, his bat should keep him in the big leagues for a long time.

    7. Bubba Starling, Royals: Kansas City went over-slot to sign Starling, the No. 5 overall pick in 2011 who had a a scholarship offer to play quarterback at the University of Nebraska. Starling has every tool in the toolbox and simply needs to get out there and play to sharpen them. There is no doubt about his speed on both sides of the ball, his strong arm and his tremendous raw power. There has been a good amount of swing-and-miss to his game, but there is confidence that he'll be a decent all-around hitter -- even if there are high strikeout totals -- when all is said and done.

    8. Jackie Bradley, Red Sox: Bradley picked a bad time - his junior year at South Carolina - to have a poor season with the bat. Adding injury to insult, he had wrist surgery, further hurting his stock. But it now looks as though the Red Sox reaped the benefits, getting a first-round talent in the sandwich round when they drafted Bradley with the 40th overall selection in 2011. Bradley was cured of whatever ailed him in 2012, reaching Double-A in his first full season and emerging as a Carolina League All-Star. Bradley hit for average, showed tremendous on-base skills and used excellent instincts to be a basestealing threat. He's an outstanding defensive center fielder with a plus arm, and he looks like a future everyday center fielder.

    9. Albert Almora, Cubs: While Buxton might have had the most tools of any high school outfielder in the 2012 Draft, Almora wasn't far behind. Taken No. 6 overall, the Florida high school standout is a veteran of USA Baseball and the international stage several times over. He has the offensive skills to be an above-average hitter, and he can drive the ball to all fields. He's shown glimpses of power, but he should grow into that as he matures. His instincts and work ethic are off the charts, which should allow all of his tools to play up as he progresses.

    10. Mason Williams, Yankees: The Yankees handed out seven figures to Williams, a fourth-round pick in 2010, to sign him away from a commitment to South Carolina. He still has a ways to go, but the 2012 South Atlantic League All-Star is starting to show that New York may have made a wise investment. A left-handed hitter, Williams has displayed a knack for making consistent contact and should continue to hit for average. More power should develop in the future. So should his basestealing ability, as his overall game improves through physical and emotional maturity. He can be the kind of impact player teams love to have patrolling center field in the big leagues.

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    A consistent theme.

    Signed away from South Carolina.

    My wife's and brother-in-laws favorite baseball school lol.


    I love Taveras being so high up.

    Our main offensive prospect.

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