Like us on Facebook


Follow us on Twitter





View Poll Results: Who's your #1 spec?

Voters
90. You may not vote on this poll
  • Profar

    40 44.44%
  • Taveras

    28 31.11%
  • Other (Post)

    22 24.44%
Page 23 of 69 FirstFirst ... 13212223242533 ... LastLast
Results 331 to 345 of 1022
  1. #331
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    15,183
    vCash
    1500
    To expand on Nicolino:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cObO...eature=related

    Check out how polished those mechanics are and how well he commands that fastball...There might be one offspeed, maybe two offspeeds in that video (both changeups, one on the very first pitch) as he efficiently gets himself two outs. It's a hell of a package for any pitching prospect, but throw in big and left handed? Yes please. He hits his spot almost every time there, and when he misses it's not a very hittable miss.

    OTOH, he is not a teenager. He's 20.

  2. #332
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    18,813
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    To expand on Nicolino:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cObO...eature=related

    Check out how polished those mechanics are and how well he commands that fastball...There might be one offspeed, maybe two offspeeds in that video (both changeups, one on the very first pitch) as he efficiently gets himself two outs. It's a hell of a package for any pitching prospect, but throw in big and left handed? Yes please. He hits his spot almost every time there, and when he misses it's not a very hittable miss.

    OTOH, he is not a teenager. He's 20.
    He hasn't pitched above A-ball.

  3. #333
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    15,183
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    He hasn't pitched above A-ball.
    Breaking news in the prospects thread.

  4. #334
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fife, WA
    Posts
    23,173
    vCash
    1500
    AFL Championship game on MLBN right now.

  5. #335
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    28,437
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    To expand on Nicolino:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cObO...eature=related

    Check out how polished those mechanics are and how well he commands that fastball...There might be one offspeed, maybe two offspeeds in that video (both changeups, one on the very first pitch) as he efficiently gets himself two outs. It's a hell of a package for any pitching prospect, but throw in big and left handed? Yes please. He hits his spot almost every time there, and when he misses it's not a very hittable miss.

    OTOH, he is not a teenager. He's 20.
    Nicolino is a great prospect but was also the lesser of the Lansing 3...which is now the Lansing two I guess. He's a very projectable pitcher, he won't blow anyone away but I think a safe bet is he ends up as a real good number 3. The potential to be a 2 is there but a 3 is obviously more realistic. I think we actually have a good comparison on the Jays right now in Ricky Romero. Relies heavily on his changeup much like Nicolino although I strongly doubt he can reach Romero's 95MPH fastball. I'm not sure how the Marlins system is on IP and all that but the Jays go slow and have an innings cap. If the Marlins are aggressive with him he could be in the rotation by 2014.

  6. #336
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    15,183
    vCash
    1500
    but I think a safe bet is he ends up as a real good number 3.
    If you can say that about a pitching prospect then it's hard to see how he's lesser than the other two.

    I think his size, athleticism, and the ridiculous amount of polish in his mechanics at such a young age lend to velocity projection. Not much, but a lefty with a 91-94 fastball (which I think he can get to) can do extremely well for themselves. The mechanics and his ability to spot the fastball had me thinking Cliff Lee, which is obviously a high end comp and would require his curveball catching up to his fastball and changeup (which both still have to progress as well).

  7. #337
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    28,437
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    If you can say that about a pitching prospect then it's hard to see how he's lesser than the other two.

    I think his size, athleticism, and the ridiculous amount of polish in his mechanics at such a young age lend to velocity projection. Not much, but a lefty with a 91-94 fastball (which I think he can get to) can do extremely well for themselves. The mechanics and his ability to spot the fastball had me thinking Cliff Lee, which is obviously a high end comp and would require his curveball catching up to his fastball and changeup (which both still have to progress as well).
    The other two are Sanchez and Syndergaard. Take a peak at their stats and reports and you'll see what I'm talking about. I still think Nicolino tops out as a Romer, they're pretty similar. Right now Nicolino has two good pitches, under a third one comes along, I wouldn't put him next to Lee.

  8. #338
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    15,183
    vCash
    1500
    I knew who they were. I stick to what I said given what you said (safe bet to end up a #3). Anyone you can write that about is probably a pretty special pitcher unless you are comparing him to a Strasburg type (even then...), which neither Noah S. or Aaron S. are.

    Of course, this is more towards "you probably shouldn't say that about any pitching prospect" than anything else. I'm extremely high on Nicolino but even I would not bring myself to say that. He could end up being JA Happ, who is a very impressive pitcher from a mechanics standpoint and should age well because of it, for all I know (though he's younger than Happ was to start in the minors).

  9. #339
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Wethersfield/Storrs, CT
    Posts
    8,548
    vCash
    1500
    A floor of a #3 is ridiculously good. Nicolino doesnt have a floor like that at all though. He has the floor of a late innings reliever.

  10. #340
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    15,183
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    A floor of a #3 is ridiculously good. Nicolino doesnt have a floor like that at all though. He has the floor of a late innings reliever.
    All pitchers have the floor of a shoulder injury that ruins everything.

  11. #341
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    28,437
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    A floor of a #3 is ridiculously good. Nicolino doesnt have a floor like that at all though. He has the floor of a late innings reliever.
    I didn't say that was his floor, I said that's a realistic expectation.

  12. #342
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Decatur, Illinois, United States
    Posts
    480
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    All pitchers have the floor of a shoulder injury that ruins everything.
    Nicely put!

  13. #343
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Wethersfield/Storrs, CT
    Posts
    8,548
    vCash
    1500

  14. #344
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    345
    vCash
    1500
    Nicolino has a good shot at being an ace one day, a true #1. Hes by far the best piece of that trade to the Marlins.

  15. #345
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    12,877
    vCash
    1500
    Yeah, I really like Nicolino too. His ceiling is a very high #2, floor, well.... prospects that can mean anything. Could be out of the league in 5 years, who knows.

    But I think he'll be a very good rotation piece in a few years, maybe Jon Niese is a better comparison than Ricky Romero. Regardless, IMO the best prospect the Marlins got back on that trade and a guy who SHOULD be a cornerstone for their rotation in the near future. I doubt he's that far away either.... mid-2014 or so.


    Had to be done! Go T-Rex

Page 23 of 69 FirstFirst ... 13212223242533 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •