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View Poll Results: Who's your #1 spec?

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  • Profar

    40 44.44%
  • Taveras

    28 31.11%
  • Other (Post)

    22 24.44%
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    Quote Originally Posted by stlbest5in2013 View Post
    You must have read that cubbies blogger site. The Cardinals were NEVER going to trade Miller for a rental, let alone Ryan Dempster. Moz has said this over and over again.

    and considering what you got for Dempster, you would have had to of. Thrown in some prospects on your end to even make it work out for Miller, or just Matt Garza straight up for Miller.
    HUH? I never said anything about Dempster. However I wouldn't of done Garza straight up for Miller as that would be highway robbery on the Cardinals fault. I know everyone on here loves to believe their prospects WHO HAVE NEVER PLAYED A ML GAME are worth every ounce of gold promised to the fan base but, fact remains they aren't.

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    Eh you are right, that said from my take these prospects the Cards now have are indeed gold to them and worth every ounce of it. Unlike Chicago, STL just can go out and field a 150-200 million dollar payroll.

    Cardinals have elite prospect"S" for the first time in the long time. Usually they only have one maybe two top flight prospects that have no future home with the big league club. Miller, Martinez, Wong and Taveras all have bright, new, future homes in STL.

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    I'm a big fan of three of the Cardinals' big 4 (Miller, Wong, and Taveras).

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    I am starting to get a little excited about Greg Garcia personally

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    Sleeper pick of the 2011 draft... Clayton Blackburn:

    116 IP, 127 k's, 17 bb's. 2.63 ERA (that's with a BABIP of .300 and LOB% in the high 60's).

    Anyone that follows the minors more closely, does anyone at any level have a better K/BB in comparable innings (about 100)?
    Last edited by d79cheese; 08-16-2012 at 02:58 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by d79cheese View Post
    Sleeper pick of the 2011 draft... Clayton Blackburn:

    116 IP, 127 k's, 17 bb's. 2.63 ERA (that's with a BABIP of .300 and LOB% in the high 60's).

    Anyone that follows the minors more closely, does anyone at any level have a better K/BB in comparable innings (about 100)?
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...=IP&show_fas=0

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=maness001mic
    Seth Maness
    100 K
    8 BB
    147 IP

    And
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=hendri001kyl
    Kyle Hendricks
    115 K
    15 BB
    134.2 IP

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    Thanks for the info Jeffy...


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    Blackburn was Bundy's HS teammate IIRC. If you read Sickels he was often mentioning him as a good draft prospect who would get more pub if he wasnt behind Bundy. IIRC he could hit 94 with good looking breaking stuff. Somewhat like Cubsprospect Ben Wells but a little stronger profile.
    Last edited by SenorGato; 08-17-2012 at 02:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    Blackburn was Bundy's HS teammate IIRC. If you read Sickels he was often mentioning him as a good draft prospect who would get more pub if he wasnt behind Bundy. IIRC he could hit 94 with good looking breaking stuff. Somewhat like Cubsprospect Ben Wells but a little stronger profile.
    Yeah. Remember hearing he was severely underrated coming out because of Bundy and Bradley coming out of the same state.


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    Dan Strailey is a pretty exciting young pitcher in Oakland

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    Quote Originally Posted by d79cheese View Post
    Sleeper pick of the 2011 draft... Clayton Blackburn:

    116 IP, 127 k's, 17 bb's. 2.63 ERA (that's with a BABIP of .300 and LOB% in the high 60's).

    Anyone that follows the minors more closely, does anyone at any level have a better K/BB in comparable innings (about 100)?
    Straily had 175K's and 37BB's which is pretty damn impressive.

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    Cards pitching prospects have gotten deeper in terms of depth but more specifically talent.


    Michael Wacha the Cards first round and first overall selection this year (which I was not a fan of the pick) made his AA debut.


    #3ip, 6 strikeouts in relief which the team has been using him as since he pitched all year in college are are limiting his work load.

    Year to date stats from low A ball to AA:

    16ip
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    5 hits
    2 walks
    29 strikeouts

    you can all but chalk up that Wacka will be making all the top 100 prospect lists next year. Adding yet another pitching prospect to Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal,Kelly, and Maness. With Wacha that makes 6 pitchers in AA or higher that have at worst #3/4 starter future in the MLB. Unless they flame out all of a sudden or blow up their arm so bad it falls off ala Mark Prior.

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    its not that hard to put up video game numbers if youre not facing the hitters twice/thrice. im still not a fan of the pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxeryll View Post
    its not that hard to put up video game numbers if youre not facing the hitters twice/thrice. im still not a fan of the pick.
    I am not comparing him to Sale in anyway here. That said you must of thought that Sales numbers were inflated in his quick rise to the majors. Stroman and Wacha were the two most major league ready pitchers in this draft. Both were expected to rise quickly through the farm systems of whichever teams took them.

    In FACT the good prospects dominate the lower A ball ranks and are not truly judged until they get to AA. You can look at Taveras, tore up A ball, had an injury, cracked the prospect lists, then this year in AA blew up these lists.

    Where I agree with you is that he can not be judged into next year although as long as continues to dominate in a relief role this year, he will be in all top 100 lists entering next year.

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