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  • Mets

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  • Marlins

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  • Reds

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  • Brewers

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  • Cubs

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  • Pirates

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  • Giants

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  • Rockies

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  • Diamondbacks

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  • NL GMs

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Thread: NL Wild Cards

  1. #16
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    My bad I voted wrong one, but i doubt it matters. you can take off my reds and giants vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukudome4MVP View Post
    Your half Japanese bullpen is not better than ours. Those guys have never pitched in the MLB, and they are not named Darvish. Our back end is Madson, Loe, and Janssen, which is pretty damn solid.

    If you are really looking at batting average, I feel sorry for you.

    Also, Felix, Cueto, Cahill, Morrow, Liriano is better than Josh "I get hurt every year" Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Jake "I'm still hurt Peavy", Javy "Retired" Vazquez, and Tanaka.

    And where in the **** does your lineup come close to ours? I'll have a post with stats in a second, but just to get you started:

    LF - Emilio Bonifacio
    CF - Jon Jay
    SS - Hanley Ramirez
    RF - Mike Stanton
    3B - Aramis Ramirez
    1B - Gaby Sanchez
    C - AJ Pierzynski
    2B - Omar Infante

    Is in no GALAXY better then:

    DeJesus
    Phillips
    Votto
    Wright
    Bruce
    Rollins
    Stubbs
    Hernandez

    1-8 we can take you yard, hit a gapper, steal a base, and score way more runs.
    Great post

    Two out of my 8 relief pitchers are Japanese.

    Masahiro Tanaka received best pitching honours in Japan over Yu Darvish.
    Rollins + Wright were injured last year.

    Peavy doesn't get injured every year. He's a dominant pitcher in the NL
    Is Vazquez retired?

    You have Francisco "Now I've got a No-Hitter, I can give up as a pitcher" Liriano, Trevor "I'm fat but happy" Cahill, Felix "don't judge me, I play in Seattle" Hernandez, Johny "Probably 34 years old" Cueto, and Brendon "Roller coaster" Morrow

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    If you looked at my teams stats, there wouldnt be an argument here.

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    LF - Emilio Bonifacio .296/5HR/36RBI/78R/40SB
    CF - Jon Jay .297/10HR/37RBI/56R/6SB
    SS - Hanley Ramirez .243/10HR/45RBI/55R/20SB
    RF - Mike Stanton .262/34HR/87RBI/79R/5SB
    3B - Aramis Ramirez .306/26HR/93RBI/80R/1SB
    1B - Gaby Sanchez .266/19HR/78RBI/72R/3SB
    C - AJ Pierzynski .287/8HR/48RBI/38R
    2B - Omar Infante .276/7HR/49RBI/55R/4SB

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    I have. Your lineup is NOT better. Neither is your SP.

    Callin out Felix was not a good idea. Regardless of where he pitches, the guy is a stud, clear cut ace. The past 3 years, FIP's of 3.09, 3.04, 3.13, xFIP's of 3.37, 3.14, 3.15,and a WAR over 5 for three consecutive seasons. Cahill is fat, cute. So is his 56% GB%, which is insanely high. His peripherals may not be there yet, but he is 23 years old. Cueto's age matters how? His 53% GB% is pretty nice, though. So were his 2.31 ERA, 3.45 FIP, and 3.90 xFIP. Morrow a roller coaster? 3.16 FIP, 3.48 xFIP, 10.95 K/9 in 2010, and 3.64 FIP, 3.53 xFIP, 10.19 K/9 in 2011 say otherwise. He also did this in a ballpark that ESPN rates as a top 5 most hitter friendly park.

    The best part is, none of these guys have had major injuries, and they are ALL in their prime, not one of them is over 27.

    Offensive breakdown is coming shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0h@n63 View Post
    LF - Emilio Bonifacio .296/5HR/36RBI/78R/40SB
    CF - Jon Jay .297/10HR/37RBI/56R/6SB
    SS - Hanley Ramirez .243/10HR/45RBI/55R/20SB
    RF - Mike Stanton .262/34HR/87RBI/79R/5SB
    3B - Aramis Ramirez .306/26HR/93RBI/80R/1SB
    1B - Gaby Sanchez .266/19HR/78RBI/72R/3SB
    C - AJ Pierzynski .287/8HR/48RBI/38R
    2B - Omar Infante .276/7HR/49RBI/55R/4SB
    Not trying to be a dick at all, but those are probably the WORST stats you could post here. BA, HR, RBI don't tell much about a player offensively. They are nice, and have value, don't get me wrong, but a lot of posters on here, myself included, look past these stats and more towards ISO, OBP, SLG, OPS, wOBA, wRC+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukudome4MVP View Post
    Not trying to be a dick at all, but those are probably the WORST stats you could post here. BA, HR, RBI don't tell much about a player offensively. They are nice, and have value, don't get me wrong, but a lot of posters on here, myself included, look past these stats and more towards ISO, OBP, SLG, OPS, wOBA, wRC+
    You look them up for me and compare. Get back to me when you're done.

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    I'm definitely not going to argue your team for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukudome4MVP View Post
    I have. Your lineup is NOT better. Neither is your SP.

    Callin out Felix was not a good idea. Regardless of where he pitches, the guy is a stud, clear cut ace. The past 3 years, FIP's of 3.09, 3.04, 3.13, xFIP's of 3.37, 3.14, 3.15,and a WAR over 5 for three consecutive seasons. Cahill is fat, cute. So is his 56% GB%, which is insanely high. His peripherals may not be there yet, but he is 23 years old. Cueto's age matters how? His 53% GB% is pretty nice, though. So were his 2.31 ERA, 3.45 FIP, and 3.90 xFIP. Morrow a roller coaster? 3.16 FIP, 3.48 xFIP, 10.95 K/9 in 2010, and 3.64 FIP, 3.53 xFIP, 10.19 K/9 in 2011 say otherwise. He also did this in a ballpark that ESPN rates as a top 5 most hitter friendly park.

    The best part is, none of these guys have had major injuries, and they are ALL in their prime, not one of them is over 27.

    Offensive breakdown is coming shortly.
    And age matters how?
    You just said Cahill isn't very good yet. My team has more experience than yours. Liriano is 28.

    Again, look up the stats on all our players and compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0h@n63 View Post
    And age matters how?
    You just said Cahill isn't very good yet. My team has more experience than yours. Liriano is 28.

    Again, look up the stats on all our players and compare.
    Are you ******** Johan? Really? I like that your standing up for your team, but there's a difference between being a blatant homer and arguing. You're being stupid, the votes speak for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.O. RaPz--Le@F View Post
    Are you ******** Johan? Really? I like that your standing up for your team, but there's a difference between being a blatant homer and arguing. You're being stupid, the votes speak for itself.
    All I see is 3 out of 15+ Gms voting.


    All Fuku is doing is spitting out stats.
    My pitching has more experience than your team, and it's evident.

    I have the most underrated bullpen in the league, no doubt.
    Last edited by Johann; 01-30-2012 at 07:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0h@n63 View Post
    All I see is 3 out of 15+ Gms voting.


    All Fuku is doing is spitting out stats.
    My pitching has more experience than your team, and it's evident.

    I have the most underrated bullpen in the league, no doubt.
    Whatever you say man, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.O. RaPz--Le@F View Post
    Whatever you say man, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing here.
    Kk

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    Peavy is not dominant.

    He's injury prone. To believe otherwise is foolish

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    And btw, Joey Votto is the best hitter on either team, then I will possibly give you Stanton as second, but the only guys you have after that are Hanley and ARam, while I still have Bruce, Phillips, Wright, and Rollins.

    I am a Cubs fan and I love Ramirez, but the decline is coming and he is an incredibly slow starter. Also, good luck with your defense.

    So, for the sake of argument (don't even know why I'm doing this):

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    Hernandez
    .282/.341/.446, .339 wOBA, 111 wRC+

    Pierzynski
    .287/.323/.405, .314 wOBA, 92 wRC+

    EDGE: REDS

    1B
    Votto
    .309/.416/.531, .403 wOBA, 155 wRC+

    Sanchez
    .266/.342/.427 .342 wOBA, 114 wRC+

    EDGE: REDS

    2B
    Phillips
    .300/.353/.457 .351 wOBA, 119 wRC+

    Infante
    .276/.315/.382 .305 wOBA, 88 wRC+

    EDGE: REDS

    SS
    Rollins
    .268/.338/.399 .329 wOBA, 106 wRC+

    HanRam
    .243/.333/.379 .317 wOBA, 96 wRC+

    EDGE: EVEN, I will give Hanley's shortened season some credit and I think he bounces back.

    3B
    Wright
    .254/.345/.427 .342 wOBA, 118 wRC+

    Ramirez
    .306/.351/.510 .373 wOBA, 133 wRC+

    EDGE: EVEN, I gave you HanRam's down year, so I'm taking Wright's injury riddled season, too.


    In the infield alone, you don't have a CLEAR win, while we have at least 3, and Wright may be 4 over a declining ARamirez, so I'll give you HanRam.

    OF is pretty much a wash, Bonifacio had a career year (unlikely to repeat), DeJesus had a down year, Jay and Stubbs are in the same ballpark, and Stanton may get the nod over Bruce, but it isn't as lopsided as Votto or Phillips over their counterparts.

    Phillips-Votto-Wright-Bruce-Rollins is a top 5 2-3-4-5-6 in the mock.

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