NL Wild Cards

[Superdude]

please pick two teams
only AL GMs are allowed to vote

NL East

Marlins
Mets


NL Central
Brewers
Astros
Reds
Cubs
Pirates

NL West
Giants
Diamondbacks
Rockies

[Superdude]

Reds
Giants

[Johann]

The Reds matchup well with the Marlins. But the Fish prevail.

[Fukudome]

Reds > Marlins

[DaSox_05]

Reds
Giants

[Superdude]

The Reds matchup well with the Marlins. But the Fish prevail.

But both the Reds, and the Giants are better than the Marlins...

[Johann]

We both have star players.

My bullpen kills your bullpen.
My 2,3,4,5 starters > your 2,3,4,5 starters

You have three starters hitting under .260, and I have one (Hanley Ramirez)

[Johann]

But both the Reds, and the Giants are better than the Marlins...

That explains everything.

Tell me how the Reds are better.

[TO Rapz]

I'm not even gona argue this one.

[Superdude]

[Fukudome]

Your half Japanese bullpen is not better than ours. Those guys have never pitched in the MLB, and they are not named Darvish. Our back end is Madson, Loe, and Janssen, which is pretty damn solid.

If you are really looking at batting average, I feel sorry for you.

Also, Felix, Cueto, Cahill, Morrow, Liriano is better than Josh "I get hurt every year" Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Jake "I'm still hurt Peavy", Javy "Retired" Vazquez, and Tanaka.

And where in the **** does your lineup come close to ours? I'll have a post with stats in a second, but just to get you started:

LF - Emilio Bonifacio
CF - Jon Jay
SS - Hanley Ramirez
RF - Mike Stanton
3B - Aramis Ramirez
1B - Gaby Sanchez
C - AJ Pierzynski
2B - Omar Infante

Is in no GALAXY better then:

DeJesus
Phillips
Votto
Wright
Bruce
Rollins
Stubbs
Hernandez

1-8 we can take you yard, hit a gapper, steal a base, and score way more runs.

[Fukudome]

1) David DeJesus - LF

2011 season:
10 HR's, 46 RBI's, 60 Runs, 4 SB's
.240/.323/.376, .309 wOBA, 95wRC+, 2.2 WAR

Projected 2012:
8 HR's, 46 RBI's, 58 Runs, 4 SB's
.271/.349/.399, .324 wOBA

2) Brandon Phillips - 2B

2011 season:
18 HR's, 82 RBI's, 94 Runs, 14 SB's
.300/.353/.457, .351 wOBA, 119wRC+, 6.0 WAR

Projected 2012:
19 HR's, 79 RBI's, 91 Runs, 15 SB's
.279/.334/.435, .322wOBA

3) Joey Votto - 1B

2011 season:
29 HR's, 103 RBI's, 101 Runs, 8 SB's
.309/.416/.531, .403wOBA, 155wRCA+, 6.9 WAR

Projected 2012:
31 HR's, 105 RBI's, 98 Runs, 9 SB's
.310/.412/.547, .408wOBA

4) David Wright - 3B

2010 season (2011 season was injury riddled):
29 HR"s, 103 RBI's, 87 Runs, 19 SB's,
.283/.354/.503, .364wOBA, 128wRCA+, 4.0 WAR

Projected 2012:
22 HR's, 90 RBI's, 86 Runs, 17 SB's
.286/.375/.487, .373wOBA

5) Jay Bruce - RF

2011 season:
32 HR's, 97 RBI's, 84 Runs, 8 SB's
.256/.341/.474, .346wOBA, 116wRCA+, 3.3 WAR

Projected 2012:
34 HR's, 106 RBI's, 93 Runs, 7 SB's
.271/.348/.504, .364wOBA

6) Jimmy Rollins - SS

2011 season:
16 HR's, 63 RBI's, 87 Runs, 30 SB's
.268/.338/.399, .329 wOBA, 106 wRC+, 3.1 WAR

Projected 2012:
16 HR's, 62 RBI's, 89 Runs, 25 SB's
.262/.328/.417, .328 wOBA

7) Drew Stubbs - CF

2011 season:
15 HR's, 44 RBI's. 92 Runs, 40 SB's
243/.321/.364, .314wOBA, 94wRC+, 2.6 WAR

Projected 2012:
21 HR's, 89 RBI's, 85 Runs, 38 SB's
259/.338/.427, .345wOBA

8) Ramon Hernandez - C

2011 season (in only 91 games):
12 HR's, 36 RBI's, 28 Runs
.282/.341/.446, .339wOBA, 111wRC+, 2.0 WAR

Projected 2012 (only for 81 games, x2 if you want fullseason):
8 HR's, 39 RBI's, 26 Runs
.267/.336/.403, .314wOBA

Here's my part, now explain how yours is better.

[Fukudome]

1) Felix Hernandez

11: 233.2 IP, 8.55 K/9, 3.13 FIP, 3.15 xFIP, 50.2 GB%, 0.73 HR/9, 6.2 WAR
10: 249.2 IP, 8.36 K/9, 3.04 FIP, 3.14 xFIP, 53.9 GB%, 0.61 HR/9, 5.5 WAR

2) Trevor Cahill

11: 207.2 IP, 6.37 K/9, 4.10 FIP, 3.90 xFIP, 55.9 GB%, 0.82 HR/9, 2.5 WAR
10: 196.2 IP, 5.40 K/9, 4.19 FIP, 3.99 xFIP, 56.0 GB%, 0.87 HR/9, 2.2 WAR

3) Johnny Cueto

11: 156.0 IP, 6.00 K/9, 3.45 FIP, 3.90 xFIP, 53.7 GB%, 0.46 HR/9, 2.8 WAR
10: 185.2 IP, 6.69 K/9, 3.97 FIP, 4.09 xFIP, 41.7 GB%, 0.92 HR/9, 2.8 WAR

4) Brandon Morrow

11: 179.1 IP, 10.19 K/9, 3.64 FIP, 3.53 xFIP, 36.0 GB%, 1.05 HR/9, 3.4 WAR
10: 146.1 IP, 10.95 K/9, 3.16 FIP, 3.48 xFIP, 40.4 GB%, 0.68 HR/9, 3.7 WAR

5) Francisco Liriano

11: 134.1 IP, 7.5 K/9, 4.54 FIP, 4.52 xFIP, 48.6 GB%, 0.94 HR/9, 1.0 WAR
10: 191.2 IP, 9.4 K/9, 2.66 FIP, 2.95 xFIP, 53.6 GB%, 0.42 HR/9, 6.0 WAR




Bullpen:

SP/LR: Homer Bailey
11: 132 IP, 7.2 K/9, 4.06 FIP, 3.77xFIP, 39.5 GB%, 1.23 HR/9, 1.5 WAR
10: 109 IP, 8.3 K/9, 3.74 FIP, 3.75xFIP, 41.6 GB%, 0.91 HR/9, 1.9 WAR

MR: Joel Zumaya
10: 38.1 IP, 7.98 K/9, 2.50 FIP, 3.79 xFIP, 37.0 GB%, 0.23 HR/9, 1.0 WAR
09: 31.0 IP, 8.71 K/9, 5.48 FIP, 5.42 xFIP, 34.4 GB%, 1.45 HR/9

MR: Shawn Camp
11: 66.1 IP, 4.34 K/9, 3.91 FIP, 4.43xFIP, 53.5 GB%, 0.41 HR/9, 0.4 WAR
10: 72.1 IP, 5.72 K/9, 4.16 FIP, 3.93xFIP, 52.0 GB%, 1.00 HR/9, 0.3 WAR

LOOGY: Bill Bray
11: 48.1 IP, 8.19 K/9, 3.19 FIP, 4.02 xFIP, 32.6 GB%, 0.56 HR/9, 0.7 WAR
10 only threw 28 innings.
08: 47 IP, 10.34 K/9, 3.54 FIP, 3.80 xFIP, 35.1 GB%, 0.77 HR/9, 0.6 WAR

MR: Casey Janssen
11: 55.2 IP, 8.6 K/9, 2.45 FIP, 3.04xFIP, 47.3 GB%, 0.32 HR/9, 1.3 WAR
10: 68.2 IP, 8.3 K/9, 3.85 FIP, 3.49xFIP, 46.6 GB%, 1.05 HR/9, 0.4 WAR

SU: Kameron Loe
11: 72.0 IP, 7.63 K/9, 2.80 FIP, 2.78 xFIP, 63.3 GB%, 0.50 HR/9, 1.2 WAR
10: 58.1 IP, 7.10 K/9, 3.71 FIP, 3.28 xFIP, 59.4 GB%, 0.93 HR/9, 0.5 WAR

CL: Ryan Madson
11: 60.2 IP, 9.20 K/9, 2.25 FIP, 2.94 xFIP, 48.8 GB%, 0.30 HR/9, 1.7 WAR, 32 Saves
10: 53.0 IP, 10.87 K/9, 2.61 FIP, 2.75 xFIP, 50.4 GB%, 0.68 HR/9, 1.3 WAR


Part deux.

[Johann]

You know I could see the exact same thing by clicking your clubhouse.

[Fukudome]

Just making sure you actually looked at it, because if you had, I don't know how you could really make that argument.