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    Quote Originally Posted by itsripcity32 View Post
    Lie more please. Just trying to not embarrass yourself by bringing in ONE mock draft. Look at all the other draft sites first. K?
    Okay, one more(no insults). Did you not see that I said they didn't have their heads screwed on straight? I thought it was funny because there isn't any way in hell I would draft Moultrie at #8(with not making the tourney, or drastically improving, I would rather take Jones). Once again it wasn't directed at you! I was over it when I posted that. Let it be.

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    Official 2012 Pistons Mock Draft**

    So, it's gonna be Perry Jones for sure. I have a feeling **** u joe!!

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    Meyers Leonard is a legit 7footer. Listed at 7'1" and 245lb. I dunno how the draft combine can hurt him in terms of measurements. He is also an explosive athlete, and will do at least decent there.

    Just like Vucevic last year, after these measurements and athletic testings, his Stock went up immediately. N being picked 10spots higher than originally predicted.

    I think Meyers Leonard can go as high as 7th overall on the draft once he has done with the draft combine. I only rate Davis, Drummond, Beal, Thomas Robinson, MGK n maybe Barnes or Cody Zeller(returning?) higher.

    But we'll see. Of coz Meyers Leonard has his red flag as being inconsistent n lack of mental toughness...but in that 7th-10th range, I don't see the other options are safe bet anyway:

    PJIII - lack motor, inconsistent, bad defender, stuck between 3 n 4, poor help-side defender next to Monroe

    Sullinger - conditioning issue(fat?), short, unatheltic, poor defender, bad fit

    Henson - Already a junior still 220lb, limited offensive game

    Tyler Zeller - Lowest ceiling, not great athlete and relatively short wingspan, does everything decent but nothing great

    Arnett Moultrie - Poor defender, terrible shot blocker for his length and athleticism(0.8 per game), already a junior still kinda thin, big reach to draft him in our draft position



    I think Meyers Leonard is relatively a less risky pick. But if u wanna go for 100% safe, Tyler Zeller is apparently going to crack into any teams rotation but he is a career role player, and he is a senior so relatively low ceiling

    We are a terrible team with no trading chip other than Monroe, I don't understand how a "safe bet" in Tyler Zeller can bring us closer to become a more competitive team. In top 10, of the better prospects are gone, u go for the high risk/high return players and hope they turn into better players in the league. Career role players with limited ceiling can't help us

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    I think Drummond, Davis, Thomas Robinson will be out of reach


    assuming we're at 8th or 9th, the realistic targets I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN WILL BE :

    Cody Zeller
    Meyers Leonard
    and maybe John Henson


    Not interested in PJIII (no defense, average rebounder, no motor), Tyler Zeller(high floor, very low ceiling) n Sullinger(fat, unatheltic, undersized, poor d)

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    1) Charlotte- Anthony Davis (6'10'', PF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

    2) Washington - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (6'7'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

    3) New Orleans - Thomas Robinson (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)

    4) Cleveland - Bradley Beal (6'4'', SG, Florida, Fresh.)

    5) Portland - Andre Drummond (6'11'', C, UConn, Fresh.)

    6) Toronto - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Soph.)

    7) Sacremento - Perry Jones (6'11'', SF, Baylor, Soph.)

    8) Detroit - Meyers Leonard (7'1'', C, Illinois, Soph.)

    9) Utah(from Warriors) - Jeremy Lamb (6'5'', SG, UConn, Soph.)

    10) Milwaukee - Tyler Zeller (7', C, North Carolina, Sr.)

    11) Portland - Damian Lillard (6'2'', PG, Weber State, Jr.)

    12) New Orleans (from Wolves) - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Soph.)

    13) Pheonix - Terrence Ross (6'6'', SG, Washington, Soph.)

    14) Houston - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Soph.)


    possible lottery picks:

    John Henson (6'11'', PF, North Carolina, Jr.)
    Austin Rivers (6'4", SG/PG, Duke, Fresh.)
    Kendall Marshall (6'3'', PG, North Carolina, Soph.)
    Arnett Moutire (6'11", PF, Mississippi State, Jr.)

    * Assuming Cody Zeller and McAdoo do not declare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riedle9 View Post
    1) Charlotte- Anthony Davis (6'10'', PF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

    2) Washington - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (6'7'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

    3) New Orleans - Thomas Robinson (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)

    4) Cleveland - Bradley Beal (6'4'', SG, Florida, Fresh.)

    5) Portland - Andre Drummond (6'11'', C, UConn, Fresh.)

    6) Toronto - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Soph.)

    7) Sacremento - Perry Jones (6'11'', SF, Baylor, Soph.)

    8) Detroit - Meyers Leonard (7'1'', C, Illinois, Soph.)

    9) Utah(from Warriors) - Jeremy Lamb (6'5'', SG, UConn, Soph.)

    10) Milwaukee - Tyler Zeller (7', C, North Carolina, Sr.)

    11) Portland - Damian Lillard (6'2'', PG, Weber State, Jr.)

    12) New Orleans (from Wolves) - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Soph.)

    13) Pheonix - Terrence Ross (6'6'', SG, Washington, Soph.)

    14) Houston - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Soph.)


    possible lottery picks:

    John Henson (6'11'', PF, North Carolina, Jr.)
    Austin Rivers (6'4", SG/PG, Duke, Fresh.)
    Kendall Marshall (6'3'', PG, North Carolina, Soph.)
    Arnett Moutire (6'11", PF, Mississippi State, Jr.)

    * Assuming Cody Zeller and McAdoo do not declare
    I'd rather draft Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, and possibly Jared Sullinger over Myers...IMO if he wasn't skinny I might be all in on him. But, I just see him getting dominated vs Centers & blown by PFs. He will be a project for whoever drafts him, I want someone who has a more clear outlook of their NBA transition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JWO35 View Post
    I'd rather draft Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, and possibly Jared Sullinger over Myers...IMO if he wasn't skinny I might be all in on him. But, I just see him getting dominated vs Centers & blown by PFs. He will be a project for whoever drafts him, I want someone who has a more clear outlook of their NBA transition.

    Meyers Leonard is a legit 7footer. Listed at 7'1" and 245lb. I dunno how the draft combine can hurt him in terms of measurements. He is also an explosive athlete, and will do at least decent there.

    Just like Vucevic last year, after these measurements and athletic testings, his Stock went up immediately. N being picked 10spots higher than originally predicted.

    I think Meyers Leonard can go as high as 7th overall on the draft once he has done with the draft combine. I only rate Davis, Drummond, Beal, Thomas Robinson, MGK n maybe Barnes or Cody Zeller(returning?) higher.

    But we'll see. Of coz Meyers Leonard has his red flag as being inconsistent n lack of mental toughness...but in that 7th-10th range, I don't see the other options are safe bet anyway:

    PJIII - lack motor, inconsistent, bad defender, stuck between 3 n 4, poor help-side defender next to Monroe

    Sullinger - conditioning issue(fat?), short, unatheltic, poor defender, bad fit

    Henson - Already a junior still 220lb, limited offensive game

    Tyler Zeller - Lowest ceiling, not great athlete and relatively short wingspan, does everything decent but nothing great

    Arnett Moultrie - Poor defender, terrible shot blocker for his length and athleticism(0.8 per game), already a junior still kinda thin, big reach to draft him in our draft position



    I think Meyers Leonard is relatively a less risky pick. But if u wanna go for 100% safe, Tyler Zeller is apparently going to crack into any teams rotation but he is a career role player, and he is a senior so relatively low ceiling

    We are a terrible team with no trading chip other than Monroe, I don't understand how a "safe bet" in Tyler Zeller can bring us closer to become a more competitive team. In top 10, of the better prospects are gone, u go for the high risk/high return players and hope they turn into better players in the league. Career role players with limited ceiling can't help us

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWO35 View Post
    I'd rather draft Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, and possibly Jared Sullinger over Myers...IMO if he wasn't skinny I might be all in on him. But, I just see him getting dominated vs Centers & blown by PFs. He will be a project for whoever drafts him, I want someone who has a more clear outlook of their NBA transition.
    This. He would be a perfect fit coming off the bench for Stuckey. But if we're looking for a guy to come in and start, I think Leonard would have to be the guy at the spot were picking at.

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    Lamb is not the obvious BPA at 8th, definitely not. I see a lot of red flags, and he is not gonna play ahead of Stuckey who should be arround for a few more years. U don't wanna waste ur top 10 pick on a backup SG, or another rotational player

    I actually like Terence Ross more than Lamb, I don't care what Chad Ford says

    And now since Cody Zeller is returning for sophomore, I prefer Meyers Leonard or John Henson. They fit our need since we need length, help-defense and athleticism inside. But I feel like John Henson can be very injury prone in NBA, still very skinny in his junior year n has limited offensive game. I prefer Leonard, much higher potential IMO.

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    Get off the Lamb bandwagon.. Arent you guys sick of having skinny, undersized players???? Austin Daye is 30 lbs underweight for SF, Lamb is 30 lbs underweight at SG and his height!!! Why the hell would u want another skinny as player???
    I would trade down and get Melo or Moultire or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorin564 View Post
    Get off the Lamb bandwagon.. Arent you guys sick of having skinny, undersized players???? Austin Daye is 30 lbs underweight for SF, Lamb is 30 lbs underweight at SG and his height!!! Why the hell would u want another skinny as player???
    I would trade down and get Melo or Moultire or both.
    Some players can get away with being skinny(IMO any position except the 4 & 5)...I mean Daye doesn't suck because he's skinny, he just can't play.
    6'5 for a SG is pretty average height I would say, I'm not all the way sold on Lamb(rather have Beal, who apparently is a Top 5 pick now) but there's no doubt in my mind Lamb has good potential


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorin564 View Post
    Get off the Lamb bandwagon.. Arent you guys sick of having skinny, undersized players???? Austin Daye is 30 lbs underweight for SF, Lamb is 30 lbs underweight at SG and his height!!! Why the hell would u want another skinny as player???
    I would trade down and get Melo or Moultire or both.
    I'm with you on this one man. Not necessarily for his size but if we're drafting a guard he better be an impact player and I don't see it from him. Honestly I don't get what the big deal is about Lamb in the first place, he's not a BAD player, but cmon. I'd take PJ3 over him and that's saying something since I don't even want him.

    If there was an Eric Gordon type player in that spot I'd think about it, but not Lamb

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    lamb has the potential to be a guy who is both a role player but still have the ability to score, his standing reach is as long as MKG, he is athletic, he can shoot, he doesn't need the ball to score, he and knight would be a back court of shooting and lengthy defense, and monroe would have two guys to pass out to

    IMO lamb will be kevin martin with better defense and not as great a scorer, that sounds like a good player to me

    lamb is what he is; a guy who can score without the ball and use his length to bother opposing 2 guards on defense

    leanord is a project, do you really think leanord will get developed properly here?

    lamb is still only 20 years old he wont get to his full strength for another 2 or 3 years

    a lot of people just want a big guy because of need, unless its drummond or davis i dont see the point anyone else expected to go in the lottery will not fit with monroe or they will just be a bust

    lamb is going to be a good player

    robinson + monroe= poor defense

    sullinger + monroe= also poor defense

    leanord= lots of potential but that potential will not be reached here

    davis
    drummond
    mkg
    barnes
    lamb
    if we dont get one of those guys then i will settle with moultrie, perry jones, terrence jones or leanord

    john henson is going to be a bust he still weighs 220

    i think we will end up with perry jones in the end because dumars is going to fall in love with him
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    I wouldn't mind drafting PJ3 if the drafts starts to go South(as planned), my only rule would be, "Start him Game 1" this dude is already emotionally not stable, if he sits behind Maxiell, Villanueva, or Prince...Frank should be charged with a crime.

    only people I'd draft over Jones lll is
    A. Davis
    Drumound
    MKG
    Beal
    Lamb
    Robinson
    Barnes
    *trade down for T. Jones*
    That's about it...which would leave him 8th(I think Pistons still projected 9th). If we dont draft one of these guys, IDGAF who we draft.


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