2012 NBA Draft Thread

[crewfan13]

I don't think Perry fits in Milly. He's got an attitude that I think will show just as Jennings has.

Tony Wroten is the guy I want. Southpaw baby.

I don't think Perry Jones has an attitude at all. From everything I've heard, he's actually a great kid who knows the game. His problem is he lacks the killer instinct, whereas Jennings doesn't. Jennings wants the ball down the stretch. He shouldn't necessarily always have the ball, but he wants it. Jones doesn't want to step up and take over games. But its not because he has an attitude problem. Everything I've heard says he has a great attitude and he's genuinely a great kid.

I wouldn't mind getting more picks in this strong draft. But ya figure we have 13 guys under contract. Well Beno is a player option and been rumored not happy with playing time so he might opt out. Also Livingston is a team option but looks like we will pick it up. But if Jennings is traded for a player or a pick. Well then I can see Beno taking the player option. Also a Jackson trade would shake up the roster anyway. Then if Jennings ever gets dealt.

Then I could see us starting Beno at pg next year and Livingston at sg. Then we either try and bring Delfino back or start Harris. Then with draft we select a pg/sg and a back up center. Also depends what we do with Bogut. Doubt hes traded at the deadline. If Bogut is ever dealt it have to be on draft night. But with him injured often he will be difficult to move. He probably be here til his contract expires. He can drive the tank.

If we start Beno, Livingston and Harris next year, we'll be horrible. I think Harris has some upside but he's not a starter yet, unless he has a bunch of good starters around him, which Livingston and Beno aren't. They are all guys who could start on teams as long as they were the 5th starter and the other players around them were good. Starting all three of them would be a disaster.

Personally, I am a big fan of Brad Beal right now. I think he's a similar player to Eric Gordon. I liked Gordon coming out of college and wished he would have fallen one more spot to us, but now we can get a similar player in Beal. Plus I think Beal is being under utilized in Florida right now, since both Walker and Boyton require the ball alot. Beal still gets his looks, but not as much as those guys, so he may be slightly underrated in the draft.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

I don't think Perry Jones has an attitude at all. From everything I've heard, he's actually a great kid who knows the game. His problem is he lacks the killer instinct, whereas Jennings doesn't. Jennings wants the ball down the stretch. He shouldn't necessarily always have the ball, but he wants it. Jones doesn't want to step up and take over games. But its not because he has an attitude problem. Everything I've heard says he has a great attitude and he's genuinely a great kid.



If we start Beno, Livingston and Harris next year, we'll be horrible. I think Harris has some upside but he's not a starter yet, unless he has a bunch of good starters around him, which Livingston and Beno aren't. They are all guys who could start on teams as long as they were the 5th starter and the other players around them were good. Starting all three of them would be a disaster.

Personally, I am a big fan of Brad Beal right now. I think he's a similar player to Eric Gordon. I liked Gordon coming out of college and wished he would have fallen one more spot to us, but now we can get a similar player in Beal. Plus I think Beal is being under utilized in Florida right now, since both Walker and Boyton require the ball alot. Beal still gets his looks, but not as much as those guys, so he may be slightly underrated in the draft.

Well I was naming what we had. Might have Delfino signed or Ersan? Besides our lottery pick. That pick alone could be our starting sg/sf. Then whatever happens with a Jackson trade might fill a void hopefully. But yeah were the Bucks and once injuries kick in yearly were already discussing lottery picks first month into the schedule.

[crewfan13]

I don't mind Wroten's potential, but I don't think he's a fit for us if we still have Jennings. He has the size to potentially play the 2, but I don't know if its the right fit for him.

I think he's a similar player to Tyreke Evans, only a better passer. He needs the ball to play his game. I think a guy like Beal, who can play off the ball would be a better fit. As you guys will probably come to tell, I'm a big Beal fan this year. I think he's exactly what we need, and right now he's going right around where we are looking like we'll probably pick.

[time4change]

O don't think Beal will be around when we draft.

However I disagree with your assessment that Wroten needs the ball in his hands. Kids is a great shooter, and hiss jump shot is almost as smooth as Beal's. Not to mention Wroten has a ton more athleticism and is a ball handler and passer.

So while he doesn't need the ball in his hands, it's more beneficial when it is because he is much more of a play maker than Beal.

I like Beal though, don't get me wrong.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/

Has us picking PF Terrence Jones at #11 yet they have Jeremy Lamb going at #12. I would take him Bucks need a SG badly. Second round has us taking PG Tu Holloway.

[jay87shot]

Not a huge fan of Wroten although I haven't seen much, I've been coming around to Damian Lillard more. After Marshall I think he is the 2nd pg in my book. I love Perry Jones but I think it will take him 2 or 3 years with the right coach to figure things out. He reminds me a lot of Tyrus Thomas which isn't good. I wouldn't mind Cody Zeller if he were to come out, not a lot has been said about him on here.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

I mentioned Zeller once we were winning and had our pick at #15. But were losing and our pick is at #10 and ready to move up with a couple more losses.

[time4change]

Watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU9S1ADUCmg

The kid is a beast.

[crewfan13]

O don't think Beal will be around when we draft.

However I disagree with your assessment that Wroten needs the ball in his hands. Kids is a great shooter, and hiss jump shot is almost as smooth as Beal's. Not to mention Wroten has a ton more athleticism and is a ball handler and passer.

So while he doesn't need the ball in his hands, it's more beneficial when it is because he is much more of a play maker than Beal.

I like Beal though, don't get me wrong.

I'm not sold on Wroten's shooting yet. He's shooting 20% from down town this year. Beal is a much better pure shooter than Wroten at this point.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Wroten. I really don't think he'll be a great traditional 2 guard in my mind. I think his best game is when he has the ball in his hands and he can create for himself and others, a la Tyreke Evans. I don't think he'll ever be the Ray Allen type of player who'll run off of a bunch of screens and be a great catch and shooter who can also dribble and create when necessary.

I'm not saying that Wroten is bad, or has a bad skill set, but he needs to be on the right team. I think he's better suited to be the primary ball handler, like Evans was his rookie year, and he may struggle to adjust if you try to get him off the ball more.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/

Has us picking PF Terrence Jones at #11 yet they have Jeremy Lamb going at #12. I would take him Bucks need a SG badly. Second round has us taking PG Tu Holloway.

I do agree that Lamb is probably the better pick for us at that point, but I do really like Jones. He doesn't fit on the Bucks because we have a bunch of 3/4 combos like he'll be. However, I do think Terrence Jones will have a good nba career. I think his game will translate well to the pros. He'll never be a great scorer, but he's a decent, streaky shooter who'll rebound, block shots, get steals, and handle the ball (which he does well for a PF). If we didn't already have a glutton of guys like that, I wouldn't mind Jones at all.

Not a huge fan of Wroten although I haven't seen much, I've been coming around to Damian Lillard more. After Marshall I think he is the 2nd pg in my book. I love Perry Jones but I think it will take him 2 or 3 years with the right coach to figure things out. He reminds me a lot of Tyrus Thomas which isn't good. I wouldn't mind Cody Zeller if he were to come out, not a lot has been said about him on here.

I think someone said it perfectly when they said Perry Jones is going to get a GM fired, either for taking him too early and him busting, or for not taking him and he becomes a stud. He really doesn't have all the potential in the world, just its never all come together. I think he handles the ball and has a slightly better jumper than Thomas, but I do kind of see the comparison.

I don't like Zeller much at all. I think he'll be an okay player, but nothing special. We do need a backup big guy/starting big guy for when Bogut's hurt, but I don't love Zeller in the first. I don't really think he's much better than Leuer to be honest.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

In July, NBA scouts and executives were projecting the 2012 NBA draft to be one of the best in a decade.

With a potential lockout and other factors in play, an unusually high number of prominent college players passed on their opportunities to jump to the NBA in 2011. North Carolina's Harrison Barnes, Baylor's Perry Jones, Kansas' Thomas Robinson, Ohio State's Jared Sullinger, Kentucky's Terrence Jones, Florida's Patric Young, UConn's Jeremy Lamb, North Carolina's John Henson, Duke's Mason Plumlee and UNC's Tyler Zeller all were considered potential lottery picks in 2011. Another year in school was supposed to give them even more appeal.

We were also projecting as many as 10 freshmen as potential lottery picks: Kentucky's Anthony Davis, UConn's Andre Drummond, Kentucky's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Baylor's Quincy Miller, Florida's Bradley Beal, North Carolina's James Michael McAdoo, Duke's Austin Rivers, Kentucky's Marquis Teague, Texas' Myck Kabongo and Memphis' Adonis Thomas.

That's 20 players for 14 lottery spots. That's what you call a stacked draft.

But as we enter the last week of February, NBA executives are rushing to downgrade the draft.

"Everyone talks about how great this draft is," one NBA GM told ESPN.com. "On paper in July, it really looked that way. On the ground in February, I'm not that impressed. Anthony Davis is great. But after that, there are a lot of question marks and a surprising lack of depth. I'm not sure that the 2012 draft will be better than the 2011 one."

What's causing the pessimism?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?...rop-looks-bust

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Latest mock has us selecting SG Bradley Beal at #8 at #38 PF Drew Gordon.

[crewfan13]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?...rop-looks-bust

Its funny, because I was never as high on this draft class as some of the other experts and fans who anticipated this being one of the best draft classes ever, and now apparently I'm higher on it than these experts.

I don't really see this draft as being a star heavy draft like Lebron, Carmelo, Wade and Bosh. I never thought it would be that good, but I do think its a pretty deep draft. Its also loaded with a couple low bust potential guys, but also some very high upside guys.

There's guys like Perry Jones and Drummond who are far from sure things, but could develop into very good players. I also think there's guys like Terrence Jones, Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson, and Sullinger who are guys I consider relatively low bust potential. I think they all have pretty good upside, but at the very least, they've shown in college that they can solid contributors at worst.

So again, I like the depth in this draft. I really think it will give us a bunch of good, solid role players, but not many top line players.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Latest mock has us selecting SG Bradley Beal at #8 at #38 PF Drew Gordon.

I would love Beal. He's one of the guys who I think has relatively low bust potential. At worst, he'll be a high effort, albeit not elite defender who rebounds well for a guard and is a good set shooter.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

Rumors that Kidd-Gilchrist is gonna stay in school. Stay tuned!

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

Quincy Miller and Zeller might stay in school. Then if the list I posted prior stays in school then this draft is thinning out fast. Just when top 10 was deep. Now it might be a top six draft then a huge drop off fast. I would consider trying like what the Celtics did and trade a high pick for a star player and we try and get a big 2-3 going. Maybe have it top 3 protected yet. But Package it with Beno and we might get a team to bite. Maybe getting lucky and get Rondo or Ellis?

[crewfan13]

I don't think Miller or Zeller were really great picks anyway. They were most likely mid teens at best. And again, there's always guy who say they're staying in school and never do. I'll believe it when I see it from some of these guys.

Even look at last year, a bunch of guys decided to stay, and in all honesty, none of the major ones who decided to stay really helped their stock. Barnes and Sullinger were potential 1 and 2 picks. Now Barnes is still probably top 3, but most likely not 1. Sullinger will be lucky to be top 5. Perry and Terrence Jones have both dropped.

I think these kids will look back at history like that and be skeptical to stay. If you're a 15-20 pick, then stay. If you're a top 10 pick, you're best off going in my opinion.