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    Since my bank appeal still hasn't been answered, I will take this opportunity to write to the council again and respectfully explain our situation. Hope it is not an inconvenience.

    Dear Mr. John Henry,

    We, the Boston Red Sox, are very happy that you had our best interests in mind when granting us a $6M increase with our first appeal. We now come back, asking for more. Before you have any doubts about our intentions, please let us explain why we ask for this.

    We are currently in the midst of a blockbster deal that, with a higher payroll, would allow us the financial flexibility to bring both Carlos Beltran and Albert Pujols to Boston. Not only would these signings be huge for our current fanbase and future fanbase that these players would bring, but it would mark the second year in a row where we have gone out and established ourselves as a force to be wreckoned with by handing out contracts to such high caliber and respected players.

    The additions of Albert Pujols and Carlos Beltran, combined with an Adrian Gonzalez would expand our latin influence and give us a significant marketing advantage in the latin american market. Money made on merchandise, new sponsors, sky-rocketing ratings and media exposure would immediately pay for these investments. This would be EVERY team's dream and we have layed down the blueprints and found out a way to make this happen.

    We feel pride in the Sox ownership, because when the opportunity to bring in players who can take us to the next level, you are fully commited to getting it done no matter the cost as evidenced by the Crawford signing and A-Gon trade/extension just a year ago. This team is built to win now, we see a window of opportunity and we would like to fully commit 100% to winning multiple World Series' during said time period.

    It's with great humility and respect that we ask you Mr. Henry to increase our payroll to $195M. The Red Sox are a giant amongs boys, a big fish in a small pond. Since your ownership group take over the team, we have always had the 2nd highest payroll just behind the New York Yankees. We would like to flex our financial muscle so that we can put the horrible ending that was the 2011 season behind us and bring a renewed sense of faith to our fans by ushering what should be an exciting beginning to the new era of Red Sox baseball. I pray that you are gracious enough to grant us our wish. Thanks for your time, and god bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torontosports10 View Post
    The Toronto Blue Jays were thrilled to get the 95,000,000 payroll. And we have made some great deals bringing in players such as Evan Longoria, David Price, BJ Upton, Paul Konerko, Carlos Quentin, John Danks and Sergio Santos.

    The best part is we still have a lot of work left to be the team we want to be. We are currently in negotiations with SS Jose Reyes, and have been very busy with trade talk. We have taken the money you given us and taken it a long way, and know with whatever else your willing to give us, we will make it work. We feel that every dollar counts, and by adding a few key FA's our team will be a force to be reckoned with.

    We are not asking for 220 million like the Yankees or all the other high prices teams.

    However, we would ask the bank for 115 million payroll, so we can add a top FA, maybe two, and then some stars through trades.

    We seen what happened the first time payroll was added, and we have no doubt some more magic will be coming North of the border again!
    We cant go up to 115M but feel comfortable at 105M

    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    Boston would like to respectfully know when they can expect an answer to their appeal for a $178M payroll? Free agency has started and we'd like to know just how much cap space we'll have available in order to fill out the roster. Thanks.
    In a couple minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by es0terik View Post
    The Tampa Bay Rays have done everything in their power to work with what limited resources that we have. We have rejected many trades and stepped over many offers that we felt would hurt our team financially even by a little bit. We have missed out on premium talent on the trade market because we have had our eyes set on one important thing; to sustain a high level of talent on the field, while making as much space in our payroll as possible. We feel that we have grinded out many hours in attempting to lighten the load on the ownership and we feel that we have succeeded so far. You also told us that we would be able to put in another viable bank appeal if the bank liked where we had taken our team; the commissioners told us that they felt we should compete. Well we feel that we have made huge strides, have completely restructured the team and we feel that we are only now four pieces away from having a complete team and putting a world series contender on the field. With the acquisitions of players like Alex Gordon, Jose Bautista, Brett Lawrie, Yunel Escobar, Carlos Santana, Vernon Wells on the field and Francisco Rodriguez, Brandon League, Greg Holland and Vinnie Pestano in the pen, we feel that we have turned a team that 'just got lucky' in 2011 to a team that has made its presence known and will be a dominant force in 2012. Of course we had to give up players that we didn't want to give up to reach this point, but every battle has to have its sacrifices. Though we have parted with guys like David Price, Evan Longoria and James Shields, we feel that our team is much, much more better at this point than it was the beginning of the offseason. The biggest factor in all of this that should be considered is that we have made incredible progression with our team all the while saving a substantial amount of money along the way.

    At this point, we are only four pieces from being a legitimate world series contender:

    - A first baseman
    - Two starting pitchers
    - A left handed specialist

    All of our current available money has been allotted to making a very competitive offer to Prince Fielder on the free agent market, but unfortunately, this doesn't leave us with much room to fit in the rest of our desired pieces. We will continue to strive towards making bargain-type deals but at this point, we feel it would be impossible to do so without more breathing room.

    The Rays are requesting that their $58,000,000 payroll be increased to $85,000,000. As the offseason progresses, the list of moves we can make becomes shorter, and we feel that this kind of payroll would offer us the flexibility we need to make these final acquisitions. We feel that it will guarantee us a spot in contention, and that it will help us to solidify a marquee free agent. We would like to point out that while this is a large request, it should be noted that among the contending teams (and even some sellers) we would still have a much lower payroll than our competition.

    We would also like to note that this number would not be much higher than our past payroll numbers at all. We hope you will really consider our request and that we will be given a fair verdict, as many other team have before us.
    We are not going to go anywhere near that number, the most we can do is 70M

    Quote Originally Posted by ugadawgsfan17 View Post
    Since this offseason began, we, the Chicago Cubs, have been the class of baseball in terms of running the team the right way. Understanding that the team realistically won't be ready to compete in 2012, maybe even in 2013, we have gone out of our way to shore up the farm system which has become a weak point in the Hendry era with strong, high upside prospects. We were able to move Alfonso Soriano's albatross contract while only eating 12M per year of it, a move that no one thought was even remotely possible. Even more astoundingly, we got 2 prospects from the top 13 in the Orioles system for him. Without compromising the big league team in any way, we have acquired a plethora of top-20 organizational prospects while clearing out cap. Some of the names we've added to the farm: Chris Withrow (7th in Dodgers farm according to prospect guru John Sickels), Alfredo Silverio (5th), Gorman Erickson (11th), Angelo Songco (12th), Rob Rasmussen (6th, Marlins), Adam Conley (8th, Marlins), Dan Klein (6th, Orioles), and David Baker (15th, Orioles).

    We feel our unmatched responsibility through this offseason and the hard work we've done to completely ensure a strong future for the club should be rewarded to the tune of $175,000,000 that we can have at our disposal, not necessarily use, in our pursuit of the top end free agents in this vital free agency. With stars potentially leaving two of our division rivals, this is the Chicago Cubs' opportunity to strike and end the curse.
    You have over 50M in cap space and you want more? No

    Quote Originally Posted by iam brett favre View Post
    The Yankees would like to request a 10 million dollar increase to 230 million. We really wanna sign prince and the extra 10 million would pay for itself very easily. It would also allow us to address LF and C. So far weve spent our money very wisely, and we would like to continue making our team better.
    We dont feel comfortable taking the payroll that high

    Quote Originally Posted by ElFuturoDeESPN View Post
    To whom this may concern:

    Greetings from the Seattle Mariners front office. First off we would like to thank you profusely for the generous $95M payroll you have granted us for the 2012 season. We realize we're not a big market by any means, but we feel with this free agent class this could be a make-or-break offseason for Seattle Mariners baseball moving forward.

    We currently have the makings of an incredible rotation and an up and coming offense full of prospects, upside and potential to help back our rotation, which should help hold opponents to a fairly low run average.

    Let us rewind to 2008, the last time the Mariners were buyers going into the offseason. Seattle came away with a payroll over $117M. Not only do we feel we have more talent than our '08 club, but our team's ceiling is a lot higher than it was four years ago. Our previous GM overpaid for old, washed up talent and it resulted in a 100 loss season.

    This free agent class is brimming with high impact guys that can help make in impact not only immediately, but moving forward in the future, as well. Our main focus is on guys that are young enough to help aid the rebuilding process and that will continue to improve in an offensive/defensive/pitching standpoint.

    We're not asking for a $22M raise, that is not the case in the slightest. However, if you would be willing to give us a $10-$15M raise not only would management be eternally grateful, but I'm sure our fanbase would be ecstatic with the prospects of acquiring the players our general manager has been looking at acquiring.

    The potential combination of Ichiro and Yu Darvish on the same team would not only acquire more Japanese influence than we have had in the past, but they would be a marketing home run and we could potentially make back whatever raise you give us in merchandising sales, media exposure as well as the numerous marketing campaigns you could base around the duo.

    We already have the Latin American market's focus thanks to King Felix, but with Ichiro having a down year last year we feel something can be done in regards to the Japanese focus, which is where Yu Darvish comes in, once again. This would be a big move for our fanbase, something our fans deserve after the past few down years we have seen here in Seattle.

    This would be one of the greatest things an owner could to for our team. We will not ask for a specific number, but raising our potential payroll to anywhere between $105-$110M would be greatly appreciated, not only by management, but by our fanbase, as well.

    Thank you for hearing me out and I look forward to your response soon. God bless.
    We can raise the payroll to 105M

    Quote Originally Posted by unleashthebeast View Post
    Hello again, the Milwaukee Brewers (reluctantly) are back asking for another raise. Last time we spoke, we talked about added cash giving us the ability to sign a big bat in free agency. We added a big bat in Joe Mauer, but now are lacking a little bit of the pitching that made us so great. Our lineup is now tremendous with the likes of Mauer, Braun, Weeks, Hart, Trumbo(also recently acquired), etc. and are now just missing one great pitcher to add to Gallardo, Baker and Marcum, to make us world series contenders, as well as a third baseman.

    Our cap situation is currently 100,000,000 and with only 7million left in space, we would like to act for a raise to 123,000,000 , giving us 20million for an elite pitcher, and the rest for the third baseman and depth.

    As we saw last year, the time for us to win is now. With this added payroll, we feel like we become the favorites in our division, with the youth on our team making us capable of contention for years and years to come. We ask that our ownership realizes the strides that we have made this off-season, and gives us the necessary cash to make us the elite team that we envisioned when we took over the team.

    Thank you again for your time.
    We simply cannot take the payroll any higher than it already is

    Quote Originally Posted by Dfan25 View Post
    The Texas Rangers would like a raise in payroll. We currently have 9.353 available of our 93 mil. We have been the AL champions for the last 2 years and we are a large market. We have a very strong roster right now but feel like with a couple of big moves we can go all the way in 2012. We ask to get into the 115 range with our payroll.


    Thanks
    We can go up to 100M, giving you over 16M to sign a top free agent

    Quote Originally Posted by AI4LIFE View Post
    Since my bank appeal still hasn't been answered, I will take this opportunity to write to the council again and respectfully explain our situation. Hope it is not an inconvenience.

    Dear Mr. John Henry,

    We, the Boston Red Sox, are very happy that you had our best interests in mind when granting us a $6M increase with our first appeal. We now come back, asking for more. Before you have any doubts about our intentions, please let us explain why we ask for this.

    We are currently in the midst of a blockbster deal that, with a higher payroll, would allow us the financial flexibility to bring both Carlos Beltran and Albert Pujols to Boston. Not only would these signings be huge for our current fanbase and future fanbase that these players would bring, but it would mark the second year in a row where we have gone out and established ourselves as a force to be wreckoned with by handing out contracts to such high caliber and respected players.

    The additions of Albert Pujols and Carlos Beltran, combined with an Adrian Gonzalez would expand our latin influence and give us a significant marketing advantage in the latin american market. Money made on merchandise, new sponsors, sky-rocketing ratings and media exposure would immediately pay for these investments. This would be EVERY team's dream and we have layed down the blueprints and found out a way to make this happen.

    We feel pride in the Sox ownership, because when the opportunity to bring in players who can take us to the next level, you are fully commited to getting it done no matter the cost as evidenced by the Crawford signing and A-Gon trade/extension just a year ago. This team is built to win now, we see a window of opportunity and we would like to fully commit 100% to winning multiple World Series' during said time period.

    It's with great humility and respect that we ask you Mr. Henry to increase our payroll to $195M. The Red Sox are a giant amongs boys, a big fish in a small pond. Since your ownership group take over the team, we have always had the 2nd highest payroll just behind the New York Yankees. We would like to flex our financial muscle so that we can put the horrible ending that was the 2011 season behind us and bring a renewed sense of faith to our fans by ushering what should be an exciting beginning to the new era of Red Sox baseball. I pray that you are gracious enough to grant us our wish. Thanks for your time, and god bless.
    We dont feel comfortable surpassing the 178M payroll threshold, we grant you 8M
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    I love you Vladdy. All reasonable answers, how it always should have been. And don't worry I wasn't expecting anywhere near 85M, I was hoping you guys would give me the 73M that I originally asked for (since I got half of what I asked for the first time), but I can't complain with this. First time I'm happy with the bank.

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    So ok maybe not 230 but is there any increase at all?

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    The Dodgers request 4 million dollars to get up to 130. We're on the verge of signing CJ Wilson, and would like that money to sign a cheap 3B to fill out our roster.

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    Even though we would have like a bigger increase we thank you for the extra 7 mil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by es0terik View Post
    I love you Vladdy. All reasonable answers, how it always should have been. And don't worry I wasn't expecting anywhere near 85M, I was hoping you guys would give me the 73M that I originally asked for (since I got half of what I asked for the first time), but I can't complain with this. First time I'm happy with the bank.


    Quote Originally Posted by iam brett favre View Post
    So ok maybe not 230 but is there any increase at all?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by VRP723 View Post
    The Dodgers request 4 million dollars to get up to 130. We're on the verge of signing CJ Wilson, and would like that money to sign a cheap 3B to fill out our roster.
    We grant you the 4M

    Quote Originally Posted by Dfan25 View Post
    Even though we would have like a bigger increase we thank you for the extra 7 mil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AP=MVP View Post
    We award you $120,000,000. Get Albert. You have $30,000,000 in cap space now. Let us see your plea to Albert before we give you more.
    Mr, Dewitt and Hanser,

    Were back and as you have noticed we gave Albert a jaw dropping first offer and had an amazing plea that has Albert on the brink. We would like some additional funds to go with another strong plea that we have worked up that should surely convince Al. We wouldn't have come but we have the big market Yankees and their 230M dollar payroll to go toe to toe with and we don't need a whole lot but we just need 8-10M and if you guys agree we will 100% have big Al locked up by the end of the night guaranteed. We then need some money left over to fill in our 2B hole which is why were asking for 8-10M.

    We've shown before if we have to increase payroll to satisfy and keep our star player who is worth the world that we'll no doubt be able to no matter what. As you guys have seen via trades, not only have we managed to add more stud players but we've gotten rid of every bad contract we've had and have managed to do so maintaining our top specs. Also signing Albert will not even affect our payroll year in year out because we added a strong young core thats locked up for a while and we have some big contracts expiring come the end of this season too.

    As we've stated before we were about 4th last year in average attendance and bringing fans to the game will never be an issue. We'll always be able to make a nice amount of profit with ease.

    Thanks, hope to hear from you soon and lets go get our guy. We respect any decisions you guys decide upon.

    Edit: After the recent involvement of the big market Phillies we are trying very hard to make some moves within the budget to try freeing up more cap space. So we would like it if you can give us a substantial raise to really help us because we do not want to lose the face of our franchise for the past 11 years and want to outbid these big market teams and feel we can go toe to toe with a big market if need be
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    Dear Ownership group,

    We are incredibly thankful for the payroll upgrade we received previously and have made substantial work to improve this offense. We've gotten rid of Huff's salary and Aaron Rowand's salary while adding Denard Span (with no cap hit), Carlos Lee(with no cap hit), stud 2B Howie Kendrick, and super utility man Maicer Izturis. However, we promised to make sure we have enough money to sign them and fill out the rest of the bullpen and bench. While $140 million seems like a high number, just think about being able to field this team on a daily basis:

    SS Jose Reyes
    2B Howie Kendrick
    RF Carlos Beltran
    3B Pablo Sandoval
    C Buster Posey
    1B Carlos Lee
    LF Nate Shierholtz
    CF Denard Span
    P- Tim Lincecum

    The increased ticket and merchandise sales would more than pay for the contracts of this lineup and we feel we could be a 100+win team for 5+ years. Our starters would also be thrilled about pitching for this lineup and be much happier when the time comes for extensions. We know you will make the right choice as this increase in payroll benefits all sides of the equation.

    Thank you for your time,

    Giants Front Office
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    Dear Ownership,
    We are extremely pleased that you guys raised our payroll last time around and I know we didn't let you down. We were able to retain Javier Vasquez as an innings eater towards the back of our rotation and trade for Carlos Marmol, an upgrade at closer. We also received Mitchell Boggs and Jon Jay in a trade and got rid of the disgruntled Logan Morrison. Boggs adds depth to our bullpen and Jon Jay is a very good young player who hits for a high average and fits at LF or CF. Lastly, we were able to sign Aramis Ramirez. Aramis was a silver slugger last year and has already became a fan favorite in Miami, especially with the Hispanic population. He is an excellent player and gives us a very talented and balanced lineup. Overall, there seems to much more excitement this baseball season in Miami and profits should be increasing significantly. However, we are requesting an increase in payroll of 25 milll, bringing us to 125 M. As you can see, free agency has been extremely expensive this year, yet we signed Aramis for a comparably small amount despite him being such a valuable player. Overall, need the more money to have financial flexibility in trades, but mainly to make a run at free agent pitchers like Mark Buehrle. Our manager, Ozzie Guillen, already has a major connection with Mark from their days in Chicago and we feel that with ample funds, we can make a serious World Series push.

    Sincerely,
    MWC and j0h@n63
    Last edited by MiamiWadeCounty; 12-23-2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Grammar
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesbaby4lyfe View Post
    Mr, Dewitt and Hanser,

    Were back and as you have noticed we gave Albert a jaw dropping first offer and had an amazing plea that has Albert on the brink. We would like some additional funds to go with another strong plea that we have worked up that should surely convince Al. We wouldn't have come but we have the big market Yankees and their 230M dollar payroll to go toe to toe with and we don't need a whole lot but we just need 8-10M and if you guys agree we will 100% have big Al locked up by the end of the night guaranteed. We then need some money left over to fill in our 2B hole which is why were asking for 8-10M.

    We've shown before if we have to increase payroll to satisfy and keep our star player who is worth the world that we'll no doubt be able to no matter what. As you guys have seen via trades, not only have we managed to add more stud players but we've gotten rid of every bad contract we've had and have managed to do so maintaining our top specs. Also signing Albert will not even affect our payroll year in year out because we added a strong young core thats locked up for a while and we have some big contracts expiring come the end of this season too.

    As we've stated before we were about 4th last year in average attendance and bringing fans to the game will never be an issue. We'll always be able to make a nice amount of profit with ease.

    Thanks, hope to hear from you soon and lets go get our guy. We respect any decisions you guys decide upon.

    Edit: After the recent involvement of the big market Phillies we are trying very hard to make some moves within the budget to try freeing up more cap space. So we would like it if you can give us a substantial raise to really help us because we do not want to lose the face of our franchise for the past 11 years and want to outbid these big market teams and feel we can go toe to toe with a big market if need be
    No. We granted you more payroll then we have ever spent. We told you to get Pujols. The bank will not grant you anymore money unless you have acquired Pujols. Don't have the cap space? Get creative.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jamal View Post
    Dear Ownership group,

    We are incredibly thankful for the payroll upgrade we received previously and have made substantial work to improve this offense. We've gotten rid of Huff's salary and Aaron Rowand's salary while adding Denard Span (with no cap hit), Carlos Lee(with no cap hit), stud 2B Howie Kendrick, and super utility man Maicer Izturis. However, we promised to make sure we have enough money to sign them and fill out the rest of the bullpen and bench. While $140 million seems like a high number, just think about being able to field this team on a daily basis:

    SS Jose Reyes
    2B Howie Kendrick
    RF Carlos Beltran
    3B Pablo Sandoval
    C Buster Posey
    1B Carlos Lee
    LF Nate Shierholtz
    CF Denard Span
    P- Tim Lincecum

    The increased ticket and merchandise sales would more than pay for the contracts of this lineup and we feel we could be a 100+win team for 5+ years. Our starters would also be thrilled about pitching for this lineup and be much happier when the time comes for extensions. We know you will make the right choice as this increase in payroll benefits all sides of the equation.

    Thank you for your time,

    Giants Front Office
    Not a chance. You have never had such a high payroll. 130M is far more than we've ever spent on a team. You should be more than capable of building a contender with that cap space.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty View Post
    Dear Ownership,
    We are extremely pleased that you guys raised our payroll last time around and I know we didn't let you down. We were able to retain Javier Vasquez as an innings eater towards the back of our rotation and trade for Carlos Marmol, an upgrade at closer. We also received Mitchell Boggs and Jon Jay in a trade and got rid of the disgruntled Logan Morrison. Boggs adds depth to our bullpen and Jon Jay is a very good young player who hits for a high average and fits at LF or CF. Lastly, we were able to sign Aramis Ramirez. Aramis was a silver slugger last year and has already became a fan favorite in Miami, especially with the Hispanic population. He is an excellent player and gives us a very talented and balanced lineup. Overall, there seems to much more excitement this baseball season in Miami and profits should be increasing significantly. However, we are requesting an increase in payroll of 25 milll, bringing us to 125 M. As you can see, free agency has been extremely expensive this year, yet we signed Aramis for a comparably small amount despite him being such a valuable player. Overall, need the more money to have financial flexibility in trades, but mainly to make a run at free agent pitchers like Mark Buehrle. Our manager, Ozzie Guillen, already has a major connection with Mark from their days in Chicago and we feel that with ample funds, we can make a serious World Series push.

    Sincerely,
    MWC and j0h@n63
    25M? Really? I understand we are moving to a new stadium and have money coming in. But your payroll is already nearly double that of last year. I can not grant you that kind of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugadawgsfan17 View Post
    Since this offseason began, we, the Chicago Cubs, have been the class of baseball in terms of running the team the right way. Understanding that the team realistically won't be ready to compete in 2012, maybe even in 2013, we have gone out of our way to shore up the farm system which has become a weak point in the Hendry era with strong, high upside prospects. We were able to move Alfonso Soriano's albatross contract while only eating 12M per year of it, a move that no one thought was even remotely possible. Even more astoundingly, we got 2 prospects from the top 13 in the Orioles system for him. Without compromising the big league team in any way, we have acquired a plethora of top-20 organizational prospects while clearing out cap. Some of the names we've added to the farm: Chris Withrow (7th in Dodgers farm according to prospect guru John Sickels), Alfredo Silverio (5th), Gorman Erickson (11th), Angelo Songco (12th), Rob Rasmussen (6th, Marlins), Adam Conley (8th, Marlins), Dan Klein (6th, Orioles), and David Baker (15th, Orioles).

    We feel our unmatched responsibility through this offseason and the hard work we've done to completely ensure a strong future for the club should be rewarded to the tune of $175,000,000 that we can have at our disposal, not necessarily use, in our pursuit of the top end free agents in this vital free agency. With stars potentially leaving two of our division rivals, this is the Chicago Cubs' opportunity to strike and end the curse.
    The team had 50M in cap space as recently as yesterday. While we understand that the division is significantly weaker, we are not going to overstretch our payroll. The reality is that the Cubs are still not very close to contending. We are impressed with what you have added to the farm, but we don't believe you need more cap space to implement a budding farm system.

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    The Rays have just brought in Prince Fielder and we feel that we are nearly done with building the absolute foundation of our team.

    We request our cap space be increased by $3,000,000 from 70M to 73M, to match what we had in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by es0terik View Post
    The Rays have just brought in Prince Fielder and we feel that we are nearly done with building the absolute foundation of our team.

    We request our cap space be increased by $3,000,000 from 70M to 73M, to match what we had in 2010.
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    -Removed as per Superdude's request.
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