2013 Cardinals Payroll Thread

[bpmd2k]

I do this every year, but this is the Payroll Obligations for the Cardinals in 2012.

1. Matt Holliday LF - $17M
2. Yadier Molina C - $14M
3. Carlos Beltran RF - $13M
4. Chris Carpenter SP - $12.5M
5. Adam Wainwright SP - $12M
6. Jake Westbrook SP - $8.75M (Who the **** knows why the team picked up this option...)
7. Rafael Furcal SS - $7M
8. Jaime Garcia SP - $5.75M
9. Jason Motte CL - $1.95M (Still in ARB so TBD)
10. Edward Mujica RP - (Still in ARB so TBD)
11. Ty Wigginton UTIL - $2.5M
12. Randy Chode RP - $1.5M
13. Matt Carpenter UTIL - $500K (EST)
14. Mitchell Boggs RP - (Still in ARB so TBD)
15. Marc Rzepczynski RP - $500K (EST)
16. David Freese 3B - Might be ARB eligible? If not $500k or so?
17. Jon Jay OF - $500K (EST)
18. Allen Craig - 1B $500K (EST)
19. Daniel Descalso UTIL - $500K (EST)
20. Fernando Salas RP - $500K (EST)
21. Pete Kozma SS/2B - $500K (EST)
22. Lance Lynn RP - $500K (EST)
23. Tony Cruz C - $500K (EST)
24. Adron Chambers OF - $500K (EST)
25. Shelby Miller SP - $500k (EST)
26. Trevor Rosenthal RP - $500k (EST) (He probably makes the team over, say, Salas or maybe Scrabble...)

25 Man Payroll:
100.5M (WITHOUT Freese, Mujica, Boggs and Motte... They would have had plenty of money to add a nice player if they would have dropped Westbrook. I don't get it.)



27. Chuckie Fick - $440K
28. Samuel Freeman - $440K
29.
30. Adam Reifer - $440K
31. Brandon Dickson - $440K
32.
33. Bryan Anderson C - $440K
34.
35. Mark Hamilton - $440K
36.
37.
38. Shane Robinson - $440K
39.
40. Maikel Cleto - $440K





Spreadsheet of payroll
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&output=html

[bpmd2k]

I will be updating this throughout the Off-season.

Pitching is pretty much full right now. They have 12 guys that will make the roster. Now if they trade Lohse and or Westbrook, Lynn and or McClellan can move into the Rotation or they could add a starter etc.

[Tkais9009]

So we are sitting at 88 million. In an ideal world, we have 22 million to spend but I see it actually being 12 to 15 million.

Enough to sign a decent ss or right fielder and a bullpen arm or two....

Let's go mo, don't let cardinal nation down

[JoeDirt05]

if we end up getting a cesar isturez type player i will be so pissedd

i dont care what you all say i want prince so ha

[Tkais9009]

Haha I would love prince but come on.... That's just not gonna happen lol

[Jeffy25]

I do this every year, but this is the Payroll Obligations for the Cardinals in 2012.

1. Matt Holliday LF - $17M
2. Kyle Lohse SP - $11.875M
3. Lance Berkman 1B - $12M
4. Chris Carpenter SP - $10M
5. Adam Wainwright SP - $9M
6. Jake Westbrook SP - $8.5M
7. Yadier Molina C - $7M
8. Jaime Garcia SP - $3.25M
9. Skip Schumaker Utility - $3M (Arbitration Estimate)
10. Kyle McClellan RP - $1.2M (Arbitration Estimate)
11. Jason Motte CL - $1M (Possibly Arb Eligible)
12. Mitchell Boggs RP - $440K
13. Marc Rzepczynski RP - $440K
14. David Freese 3B - $440K
15. Jon Jay OF - $440K
16. Allen Craig OF - $440K
17. Daniel Descalso Utility - $440K
18. Fernando Salas RP - $440K
19. Eduardo Sanchez RP - $440K
20. Lance Lynn RP - $440K
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Total Payroll = $87.785M

All numbers are from Cotts Contracts or the Arb guys I estimated.

They might have a few more guys on the roster like Chambers, Cruz, Hamilton, Anderson, but they all make minimum as well.

Players 21-38 are all making 440K

That's 18 players at 7,920,000

Were around 96

Our payroll last year it was around 110, that's why getting Pujols without anybody else pushed us well past our threshold. We can maybe spend 15 million, and even that's a stretch.

Ideally we will get someone that can help in center and in right and spell days off for Jay. We also need a SS and a Loogy.

You can get the lefty for 1 mil or less, so that's 14 for those two positions. My vote is for a Beltran type player that can still be a decent presence in the lineup, and the other 2 on a Orlando Cabrera nobody shortstop and let Tyler Greene figure it out.

Our lineup is going to look really rough without Pujols, Berkman and Holliday are fine, but they aren't much without Pujols. Going to take some getting used to.

[Texas Holders]

Definitely need an outfielder with Craig missing some time.

[Tkais9009]

Stupid lohse and Westbrook... Can wait to free up that 20 mil next year

[Jeffy25]

and need someone to help Jay in center (in other words we can't just get a Kubel like player). We need someone that can play all three outfield positions.

[Jeffy25]

and need someone to help Jay in center (in other words we can't just get a Kubel like player). We need someone that can play all three outfield positions.

[bpmd2k]

Updated with Furcal Signing.

Now we just need to add Fielder and an OF and we are pretty much set.

[Tkais9009]

haha at best, we get a Ludwick type player and a few crappy bullpen guys. i wouldn't expect someone like fielder or beltran anymore

[bpmd2k]

Nah, they can't just leave a Pujols sized gap in the lineup. They have to add a legit bat.

[Tkais9009]

we dont have the money to spend on a big bat anymore... i think MO is just going to hope that Wainwright coming back, Furcal coming back, and an improved bullpen for the whole season makes up for Pujols leaving.

at best, we have like 8 million left to spend.

[JoeDirt05]

Updated with Furcal Signing.

Now we just need to add Fielder and an OF and we are pretty much set.

Yay someone as optimistic as me