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    How many players in NBA history are capable of taking weak/average casts to Finals?

    Hakeem
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    Wilt
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    maybe Duncan, but I don't think he has as much scoring firepower as the other guys

    ...are the only ones I can think of.
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    Jordan couldn't do it without pippen and Kobe would've taken that team in 06 to that finals if it wasn't for that choke job the team had after they were up 3-1 and Lebrons team was far from average it wasn't top 5 good but top 10 forsure

    Love him or hate him, call him overrated, a punk, chump, and whatever blasphemy you people speak, fact of the matter is there is no denying he's the best of his generation and will go down as a top 5 player ever...what he has done for the NBA is amazing he's the biggest name in basketball all around the world and his chase for number 6 continues! All that matters though to us Laker fans is #17! Lakersnation! #16to17

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    LMAO ^ that response above me. I'll reply properly when I get home
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveMeOrHateMe View Post
    Jordan couldn't do it without pippen and Kobe would've taken that team in 06 to that finals if it wasn't for that choke job the team had after they were up 3-1 and Lebrons team was far from average it wasn't top 5 good but top 10 forsure


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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Kobe GOAT LOL
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    Dwight Howard took Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis to the Finals, don't tell me they were good players because all they did was spot up and shoot wide open 3pt shots from Dwight getting doubled team.

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    I can see why people want to say Jordan, but in order for one player to drag a bad roster to contender status, that player needs to be someone who makes his teammates better, and can get them shots in their correct areas.

    Magic and LeBron are the first two that come to mind for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    jordan couldn't do it without pippen and kobe would've taken that team in
    06 to that finals if it wasn't for that choke job the team had after they were up 3-1 and lebrons team was far from average it wasn't top 5 good but top 10 forsure
    lol..

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    Hakeem
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    Are the only ones who took truly bad supporting casts to the finals that I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D12 fan View Post
    Dwight Howard took Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis to the Finals, don't tell me they were good players because all they did was spot up and shoot wide open 3pt shots from Dwight getting doubled team.
    Your eyes were deceiving you. Come to think of it, I think this is a common trend.



    LeBron has done it. Hakeem did it. Dwight did do it. Dirk did it. I'm sure plenty others have too.

    The rest of those guys up there didn't go as far with less as far as I'm aware. Most probably could, but we don't know for certain.

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    Any team that gets to the finals is far from weak. They earn their spot from talent, good chemistry, and hard work. One player can not take a weak team to the finals or the NBA in general is very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerellh528 View Post
    Any team that gets to the finals is far from weak. They earn their spot from talent, good chemistry, and hard work. One player can not take a weak team to the finals or the NBA in general is very sad.
    Look what Lebron had in Cleveland ... nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    Look what Lebron had in Cleveland ... nothing.
    So if lebron was able to lead a team with "nothing" to the finals, how come he wasn't able to win a ring with a loaded miami team his first year, and only took cleveland to the finals once? it takes more than 1 great player. Lebron is a beast no doubt, but it takes a snow ball of things for a team to reach the finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerellh528 View Post
    So if lebron was able to lead a team with "nothing" to the finals, how come he wasn't able to win a ring with a loaded miami team his first year, and only took cleveland to the finals once? it takes more than 1 great player. Lebron is a beast no doubt, but it takes a snow ball of things for a team to reach the finals.
    I never said he could do it every year?

    The fact that he did it once with that trash team in Cleveland is 100x more impressive than winning a ring with the Heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    I never said he could do it every year?

    The fact that he did it once with that trash team in Cleveland is 100x more impressive than winning a ring with the Heat.
    Ok i can see that. I do agree he and shaq are probably the two i can think of that probably contribute the most wins for their teams just based on the "eye" test.
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    How come Cleveland had the best record in the league if they were so bad outside Lebron ?

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