The Offical 2011-2012 New York Yankees Offseason Thread.

[mttwlsn16]

fking sign yu darvish, montero will be the fulltime DH...and thats all i ask

i was against darvish before, but after everything ive heard/read...GET HIM

[NY2AZ]

With Albert and Prince on the market the yanks need to go after at least 1 of them... tex just blows in the playoffs.... Sorry tex u are 1 of the weakest links gotta ho

[hugepatsfan]

If he wants to stay, fine let him stay. If he wants to go then fine let him go.

But how much are you willing to give him to stay if he opts out? I would be willing to bite the bullet and give him a 5 year deal because I think we need him to 1) give ourselves a chance the next few seasons and 2) help bridge the gap to our youung guys until they are ready to really be full timer starters. A 5 year deal would probably hurt us at the end, but I think the short term gain justifies it because we can afford to pay CC 20 mil to be only a #4 innings eater at the end of his deal.

But I expect him to look for a 7 year deal. At that point, I'm not sure the short term value justifies the horrificness of that deal at the end.

[jeter 2]

I don't think pitching is exactly our issue. We lost due to a lack of clutch hitting. I think the Yankees should invest in a leadoff hitter and maybe move everyone down a spot. Also, I think we could use a speedier option in Right Field. Swisher is great, but the Yankees have so many players that are high on-base, power hitters. I think a guy who can get 20 HRs and can get 30 steals and hit around .280-.300 would be better for the Yankees.

[hugepatsfan]

fking sign yu darvish, montero will be the fulltime DH...and thats all i ask

i was against darvish before, but after everything ive heard/read...GET HIM

I'd like Darvish too. He costs only money - not prospects or picks. The advantage the Yanks have being a big market is that they can afford to take financial risks. You can never have too much young high upside pitching so I'm all for adding him.

[NY2AZ]

Yet Another invisible post season this year and (right or wrong) Tex should start hearing it from the Stadium faithful next year.

[hugepatsfan]

I don't think pitching is exactly our issue. We lost due to a lack of clutch hitting. I think the Yankees should invest in a leadoff hitter and maybe move everyone down a spot. Also, I think we could use a speedier option in Right Field. Swisher is great, but the Yankees have so many players that are high on-base, power hitters. I think a guy who can get 20 HRs and can get 30 steals and hit around .280-.300 would be better for the Yankees.

Beltran. He doesn't steal anymore, but he hits for average and gets on base at a great rate. Only concern is injuries, so you probably need to secure a backup because you really only want to use Beltran for 120 games at most IMO - gotta preserve him.

[jeter 2]

Hopefully we find a ace on the open market the thought of a long term deal with Sabathia would haunt the Yanks down the road

The Yankees probably have to keep CC. Hopefully he can continue his dieting regiminte like he comes back 20-30 lbs skinnier next year.

[TallicaFan87]

I would hope they could work it out by offering two more years on his current deal, so it ends up being a 6 year deal.

Cliff Lee basically got a 6 year deal (5 years with a vesting option if he pitches 200 the last year or 400 the last two years), and he was a year or two older.

[Lindystud36]

I find it best to just ignore those type of posts. If you keep quoting them, good ideas get buried because there's so much activity here.

H2R and Johnson were both hurt this year so their value's are down
Gardner is a top 3 left fielder, Soriano is a stud closer and we eat his contract, beteces is a top prospect, plus another prospect and we would send zambrano with cash to the marlins whom they want

Really how far fetched is that?

And yes I would trade Teix for Alphonso Soriano in a heart beat

[joseph aka Jman]

I don't think pitching is exactly our issue. We lost due to a lack of clutch hitting. I think the Yankees should invest in a leadoff hitter and maybe move everyone down a spot. Also, I think we could use a speedier option in Right Field. Swisher is great, but the Yankees have so many players that are high on-base, power hitters. I think a guy who can get 20 HRs and can get 30 steals and hit around .280-.300 would be better for the Yankees.

nunez

[NY2AZ]

Catchers
Rod Barajas (36)
Josh Bard (34)
Henry Blanco (40)
Ramon Castro (36)
Ryan Doumit (31) - $7.25MM club option for 2012, $8.25MM club option for '13 with a $500K buyout
Ramon Hernandez (36)
Jason Kendall (38)
Gerald Laird (32)
Jose Molina (36)
Yadier Molina (29) - $7MM club option with a $750K buyout
Dioner Navarro (28)
Ivan Rodriguez (40)
Brian Schneider (35)
Kelly Shoppach (32) - $3.2MM club option with a $300K buyout
Chris Snyder (31) - $6.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Matt Treanor (36)
Jason Varitek (40)

First basemen
Russell Branyan (36)
Jorge Cantu (30)
Michael Cuddyer (33)
Prince Fielder (28)
Ross Gload (36)
Brad Hawpe (33)
Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
Casey Kotchman (29)
Mark Kotsay (36)
Derrek Lee (36)
Xavier Nady (33)
Lyle Overbay (35)
Carlos Pena (34)
Wily Mo Pena (30)
Albert Pujols (32)

Second basemen
Clint Barmes (33)
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Robinson Cano (29) - $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jamey Carroll (37)
Alex Cora (36)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark Ellis (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Aaron Hill (30) - $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for '13
Kelly Johnson (30)
Adam Kennedy (36)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Aaron Miles (35)
Brandon Phillips (31) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Drew Sutton (29)

Shortstops
Clint Barmes (33)
Yuniesky Betancourt (30) - $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Jamey Carroll (37)
Ronny Cedeno (29) - $3MM club option with a $200K buyout
Craig Counsell (41)
Rafael Furcal (34) - $12MM club option with a $1.3MM buyout
Alex Gonzalez (34)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Cesar Izturis (32)
John McDonald (37)
Nick Punto (34)
Edgar Renteria (35)
Jose Reyes (29)
Jimmy Rollins (33)
Ramon Santiago (32)
Marco Scutaro (36) - $6MM club option/$3MM player option with a $1.5MM buyout
Jack Wilson (34)

Third basemen
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38)
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Kevin Kouzmanoff (30)
Andy LaRoche (28)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34) - $16MM club option with a $2MM buyout; Ramirez can void
Omar Vizquel (45)

Left fielders
Travis Buck (28)
Pat Burrell (35)
Johnny Damon (37)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Jay Gibbons (35)
Jonny Gomes (31)
Carlos Guillen (36)
Scott Hairston (32)
Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Willie Harris (34)
Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
Raul Ibanez (40)
Conor Jackson (30)
Reed Johnson (35)
Ryan Ludwick (33)
Jason Michaels (36)
Laynce Nix (31)
Felix Pie (27)
Juan Pierre (34)
Scott Podsednik (36)
Juan Rivera (33)
Marcus Thames (35)
Josh Willingham (33)

Center fielders
Rick Ankiel (32)
Carlos Beltran (35)
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Mike Cameron (39)
Coco Crisp (32)
David DeJesus (32)
Scott Hairston (32)
Andruw Jones (35)
Nate McLouth (30) - $10.65MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Corey Patterson (32)
Cody Ross (31)
Grady Sizemore (29) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Dewayne Wise (34)

Right fielders
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Milton Bradley (34)
Michael Cuddyer (33)
David DeJesus (32)
J.D. Drew (36)
Kosuke Fukudome (35)
Willie Harris (34)
Brad Hawpe (33)
Jason Kubel (29)
Ryan Ludwick (33)
Xavier Nady (33)
Magglio Ordonez (38)
Cody Ross (31)
Nick Swisher (31) - $10.25MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Josh Willingham (33)

Designated hitters
Milton Bradley (34)
Johnny Damon (37)
Jason Giambi (41)
Vladimir Guerrero (37)
Carlos Guillen (36)
David Ortiz (36)
Jason Kubel (29)
Hideki Matsui (38)
Jorge Posada (40)
Jim Thome (41)

Starting pitchers
Erik Bedard (33)
Mark Buehrle (33)
Chris Capuano (33)
Bruce Chen (35)
Bartolo Colon (39)
Aaron Cook (33) - $11MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Kyle Davies (28)
Doug Davis (36)
Ryan Dempster (35) - $14MM player option, no buyout
Zach Duke (29) - $5.5MM club option with a $750K buyout
Jeff Francis (30)
Armando Galarraga (30)
Freddy Garcia (36)
Jon Garland (32)
Aaron Harang (34) - $5MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Rich Harden (30)
Livan Hernandez (37)
Hisashi Iwakuma (31)
Edwin Jackson (28)
Kenshin Kawakami (37)
Scott Kazmir (28) - $13.5MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Hiroki Kuroda (37)
Rodrigo Lopez (36)
Paul Maholm (30) - $9.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Jason Marquis (33)
Kevin Millwood (37)
Sergio Mitre (31)
Roy Oswalt (34) - $16MM mutual option with a $2MM buyout
Brad Penny (34)
Oliver Perez (30)
Joel Pineiro (33)
C.C. Sabathia (31) - may opt out of remaining four years, $92MM
Javier Vazquez (35)
Tsuyoshi Wada (31)
Adam Wainwright (30) - $10MM vesting option for '12, $12MM for '13
Tim Wakefield (45)
Chien-Ming Wang (32)
Brandon Webb (33)
Dontrelle Willis (30)
C.J. Wilson (31)
Chris Young (33)

Closers
Heath Bell (34)
Jonathan Broxton (28)
Matt Capps (28)
Francisco Cordero (37) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Frank Francisco (32)
Brad Lidge (35) - $12.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Joe Nathan (37) - $12.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jonathan Papelbon (31)
Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
Francisco Rodriguez (30)
Rafael Soriano (32) - $11MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout
Jose Valverde (34) - $9MM club option, no buyout

Right-handed relievers
Luis Ayala (34)
Danys Baez (34)
Miguel Batista (41)
Shawn Camp (36)
Todd Coffey (31)
Juan Cruz (31)
Octavio Dotel (38) - $3.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Chad Durbin (34)
Kyle Farnsworth (36) - $3.3MM club option with a $650K buyout
Jason Frasor (34) - $3.75MM club option
LaTroy Hawkins (37)
Aaron Heilman (33)
Ryota Igarashi (33)
Jason Isringhausen (39)
Scott Linebrink (35)
Mike MacDougal (35)
Ryan Madson (31)
Guillermo Mota (38)
Pat Neshek (31)
Ramon Ortiz (39)
Micah Owings (29)
Vicente Padilla (34)
Chad Qualls (33) - $6MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
Fernando Rodney (35)
Takashi Saito (42)
Yoshinori Tateyama (36) - $1MM club option
Dan Wheeler (34) - $3MM club option with no buyout; vests with 65 appearances in 2011
Kerry Wood (35)
Jamey Wright (37)
Michael Wuertz (33) - $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Joel Zumaya (27)

Left-handed relievers
Jeremy Affeldt (33) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Mike Gonzalez (34)
John Grabow (33)
Javier Lopez (34)
Damaso Marte (37) - $4MM club option with a $250K buyout
Hideki Okajima (36) - can opt for free agency
Darren Oliver (41)
Arthur Rhodes (41) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout; vests with 62 appearances
J.C. Romero (36)
George Sherrill (35)
Brian Tallet (34)

[krisxsong]

But how much are you willing to give him to stay if he opts out? I would be willing to bite the bullet and give him a 5 year deal because I think we need him to 1) give ourselves a chance the next few seasons and 2) help bridge the gap to our youung guys until they are ready to really be full timer starters. A 5 year deal would probably hurt us at the end, but I think the short term gain justifies it because we can afford to pay CC 20 mil to be only a #4 innings eater at the end of his deal.

But I expect him to look for a 7 year deal. At that point, I'm not sure the short term value justifies the horrificness of that deal at the end.

If he opts out i let him go.

[yankee blod]

Lo primero que hay que hacer es salir de Cashman, segundo salir de Girardi, tercero sacar a Alex Rodriguez de 3B, cuarto hacer un cambio con los Mets por David Wright 3B, Si CC se quiere ir que se vaya. Con el ganamos una vez. Dirigente Francona, GM Epstein. Firmar Swisher, necesitamos lanzadores abridores 2 por lo menos. Conseguir bateadores oportunos.
1B Texeira
2B Cano
SS Jeter
3B Wright
LF David De Jesus
CF Granderson
RF Swisher, Ludwick, Beltran, Kubel, Cuddyer, Sizemore
C Martin
SP CC
AJ
Nova
CJ Wilson
Edwin Jackson
RP Hughes
B Chen
John Grabow
Javier Lopez
Soriano
Robertson
Mo

[J4KOP99]

I just don't see us letting him go. I think our FO would panic if we lost Sabathia. I think if we could re-sign Sabathia(or maybe, just maybe, he doesn't opt out) and also sign Wilson we would be absolutely set.

As for RF, i'd definitely let Swisher walk and go after Beltran if the price is right.