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    For All You Stat-Heads

    Interesting article in advanced stats…

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/s...-sports-092211

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    Interesting article in advanced stats…

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/s...-sports-092211
    Nice reporting jomo.

    Yup, too bad too many have forgotten the gray areas and are looking at sport as strictly black and white

    I agree mostly what Jason Whitlock wrote.

    That's why it's great listening to Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez discussing the fundamental and mental side of the game rather than strictly talking about numbers only. The human element is just as, if not moreso the underlying or motivating factor that causes teams to either lose or win.

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    The problem that I have are all of these writers that continue to act like advanced statistics and traditional stats are mutually exclusive. There's nothing wrong with using sabermetrics and traditional stats both.

    An issue that I've run into time and time again are people that refuse to listen to an argument as to why a pitcher's W-L record isn't a good indicator of his true talent level or how a hitter with a lot of RBI isn't necessarily better than another hitter with a smaller amount of RBI. Those folks can be just as bad, if not worse than "stat heads". It goes both ways. Personally, I'll be over here enjoying baseball by watching it with my eyes and checking out some stats the next day.
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    Looks like the article was written by a very mature individual who had a complete understanding of the statistics he was bashing...oh wait.

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    You know, what I agree! Thinking is scary.


    BIG MAN HIT BALL. BALL GO FAR. GAME WE WIN.

    There we go, much better. All us stupid nerds ruining a game. There's no room for thought in sports!

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    Jason Whitlock is annoying.

    If he likes the magic and mystery of baseball, he should take his fat *** to a game...maybe somewhere like Wrigley where you're not inundated with Jumbotrons flashing statistics at you...and sit in the bleachers (not the press box) and enjoy the fact that on any given day, any given player can do something amazing.

    I just really don't understand why anyone would take time out of their life to criticize something they could easily ignore. If you don't like sabermetrics, don't read/learn about them. It's pretty simple.

    Another thing; I'm surprised he didn't turn Sabermetrics into a race issue, too. Damn racist advanced metrics.

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    so the reason sabermetrics is ruining baseball is because its boring?

    sounds like a guy who dropped out of middle school
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan89 View Post
    so the reason sabermetrics is ruining baseball is because its boring?

    sounds like a guy who dropped out of middle school
    And looks like a guy who ate middleschool.

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    Jason Whitlock is a ****ing idiot. I can't emphasize how stupid this article is. If you like traditional stats, that's fine. This is just stupid.

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    I don't understand why people can't enjoy sabermetrics for what they are. They're meant to make baseball more compelling. Arguing over a players value is more fun when you have more information. Sabermetrics arent the ONLY thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milnertime View Post
    Jason Whitlock is annoying.

    If he likes the magic and mystery of baseball, he should take his fat *** to a game...maybe somewhere like Wrigley where you're not inundated with Jumbotrons flashing statistics at you...and sit in the bleachers (not the press box) and enjoy the fact that on any given day, any given player can do something amazing.

    I just really don't understand why anyone would take time out of their life to criticize something they could easily ignore. If you don't like sabermetrics, don't read/learn about them. It's pretty simple.

    Another thing; I'm surprised he didn't turn Sabermetrics into a race issue, too. Damn racist advanced metrics.
    He and Jemele Hill will have a book out shortly on just that subject I'm sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    Interesting article in advanced stats…

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/s...-sports-092211
    That was neither interesting or "in" advanced stats. It was just another airhead employee of the Fox corporation who is upset that greater minds than his are leaving him behind in discussions of a topic he wants to participate in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milnertime View Post
    Jason Whitlock is annoying.

    If he likes the magic and mystery of baseball, he should take his fat *** to a game...maybe somewhere like Wrigley where you're not inundated with Jumbotrons flashing statistics at you...and sit in the bleachers (not the press box) and enjoy the fact that on any given day, any given player can do something amazing.

    I just really don't understand why anyone would take time out of their life to criticize something they could easily ignore. If you don't like sabermetrics, don't read/learn about them. It's pretty simple.

    Another thing; I'm surprised he didn't turn Sabermetrics into a race issue, too. Damn racist advanced metrics.
    Summed up perfectly. I think Whitlock may be one of the most idiotic sportswriters out there.

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    Jason Whitlock is a moron who is incapable of rational thought. Not everyone is a middle school drop out.
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    I don't understand why people hate advanced stats so much. I love how he bashes guys like Billy Beane to start the article for "conspiring to remove much of the magic and mystery from baseball". Seriously, does he not remember who the 2002 A's were? They were one of the most exciting teams in the league. They set a ML record for wins in a row. How is that boring? They blew a double digit lead only to win the game on a walk homer. How is that boring?

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