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    Yes a one to always preach patience and people are always ready to just give up on a kid that does not do great from the get go.

    ...at the same time I want to see what he can do with this new pitch because many times a kid learns a new pitch and after a few months or weeks teams adjust and the pitcher has a hard time adjusting himself again.

    I wanted Parnell to get a shot to close, he got a slim one and he did not fare well, perhaps he is best suited to be a 7th inning guy and am ok with that too. I do think he will be a guy that will be a key cog for the Mets pen for years to come.

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    Agreed. Its very early but as of right now, its looking like they could have Parnell as the 7th inning man, Acosta as the 8th inning man and then they sign someone to be the closer. Obviously, a lot can change, but I could see this scenario ending up being the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    The one main reson to keep a guy like Izzy is if you truly believe he can be effective still and that is it. To keep guys because he can teach younger guys something is something the Mets have have done many times when they signed old guys like Franco and guys like Cora and they just ended up being guys that while they help younger guys with how to handle themselves the team suffer because of their lack of production.

    It is great that Izzy can help Parnell learn a new pitch, but that is no reason for him to get a job as part of the pen next year, he should sta only if he can be effective once again.
    Agreed - I'm not about to recommend the Mets sign a coach at a player's price. For the right amount, though, Izzy could have a role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlikeIke View Post
    Things like this always sound great. But before we can be sure, we have to see how it looks after hitters have a chance to adjust to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IlikeIke View Post
    Things like this always sound great. But before we can be sure, we have to see how it looks after hitters have a chance to adjust to it.
    You're right. So we will have to wait until 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    I think this new pitch can make him a beast, it will get hitters off his fastball.
    Agreed. I think this could help, but as I've mentioned before I'd like to see him learn a splitter. That could make him unhittable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    Agreed. I think this could help, but as I've mentioned before I'd like to see him learn a splitter. That could make him unhittable.
    I believe Putz tried to teach him the splitter a few years back.

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    Meh, the splitter doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. Very few pitchers can throw the pitch effectively for an extended period of time. The cutter is the pitch of this era.

    If Parnell can throw this knuckle-curve low 80's and his fastball upper 90's, that is a 15 MPH differential which is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I believe Putz tried to teach him the splitter a few years back.
    Thought that was Maine. Parnell wasn't around much when Putz was here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Meh, the splitter doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. Very few pitchers can throw the pitch effectively for an extended period of time. The cutter is the pitch of this era.

    If Parnell can throw this knuckle-curve low 80's and his fastball upper 90's, that is a 15 MPH differential which is huge.
    Exactly. Hitters learned long ago that few pitchers throw the splitter for strikes. Once they recognize it loses its effectiveness. See pelfrey last season.

    The problem with a knuckle curve and the speed difference is that speed changes work best when thrown with a similar motion. A Knuckle curve might be good for him but the speed change will not be what fools hitters, movement will be.
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    Yeah, the cutter seems to be the new pitch that everyone loves. But for Parnell the best pitch for him is a change up or a curve thats in the low 80's. I hope he can use this knuckle curve effectively. It can really help him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoNyMetsGo View Post
    Exactly. Hitters learned long ago that few pitchers throw the splitter for strikes. Once they recognize it loses its effectiveness. See pelfrey last season.

    The problem with a knuckle curve and the speed difference is that speed changes work best when thrown with a similar motion. A Knuckle curve might be good for him but the speed change will not be what fools hitters, movement will be.
    Also splitters that are thrown for strikes usually get bombed.

    I actually think the speed of the knuckle-curve will fool hitters, he still uses his slider grip so the movement should still be good enough to get outs.

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    If Parnell can continue to throw the slower knuckle curve for strikes, it will be very difficult for hitters to adjust since they'll no longer be able to sit on his heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I believe Putz tried to teach him the splitter a few years back.
    I was just about to post this. I'll withold judement until I see some sustained success with the knuckle-curve.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Meh, the splitter doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. Very few pitchers can throw the pitch effectively for an extended period of time. The cutter is the pitch of this era.

    If Parnell can throw this knuckle-curve low 80's and his fastball upper 90's, that is a 15 MPH differential which is huge.
    We saw that batters caught on quickly to Pelfrey's splitter last year. His K rates were better than usual at the beginning of the season and then guys started to lay off of it because they knew it was coming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    Thought that was Maine. Parnell wasn't around much when Putz was here.
    It was definitely Putz. Maine never threw a splitter.

    http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums...d.php?t=331413
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    By the way, I'm glad to see Putz is having a bounce back year. He's battled a lot of injuries the past few years. Glad to see he's back on track.

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