Did you really just try and use that argument?
Sorry, you have been pretty knowledgeable and respectful and friendly but that argument is so ****ing ******** and you know that I wasn't using strictly rings. It's a factor that plays into the whole grand scheme of things with, stats, wins, the eye test, etc.
No one factor is a good measure of the success of a career. Rings or wins or stats, etc. I wasn't trying to say I just judge a player strictly by that. Pretty sure that was relatively obvious.
I think hes pretty overated. With that said I think many people rate him as the best QB in the NFL and many people rank him as the best QB ever to play to game. Don't get me wrong Mannings great, his a first ballet HOF.
Everyone talks about how its a team game and I agree. But one thing you need to look at is team philosophy. You look at the picks the Colts have used in the first round, Wayne, Gonzalez, Clark, James, Addai, and Brown. You throw in his also had Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison there before he came.
What I'm getting at the Colts were built to win on offense. Where during those years the patriots draft guys like Wilford, Seymore and Warren. People act like it was just luck that NE had a better defense and the Colts defense sucked. The Colts where giving Manning weapons left and right.
My biggest issue if a teams built that way Manning need to do what he did during the regular season to win and he didn't. I also think the defensive argument for Manning is highly overated because his defense didn't actually play that bad.
If you look at Mannings 10 playoff losses, only once did the offense actually score more then 20 points. In the 10 losses Manning has 9TDs and 10 INTs. I don't understand how that falls on the defense? Those numbers are bad for any QB and with those numbers most teams would loose. If Manning was like regular season Manning in the playoffs and his team was loosing shootouts you can't put the blame on him. But hes been flat out bad when the Colts lost in the playoffs.
Let's see here, for Brady, 2 great years, 3 very good years and the rest are good years.
For manning, 7 great season, 3 very good years, 2 good years and a below average year.
I like how brady always makes his receivers, but mannings receivers are always talented. Wes welker just didn't get the receptions in Miami, yet he averaged around the same amount of yards per reception as he has in new England. I credit that to belicheck for utilizing him.
I'm guessing your not a fan of Montana? He only had the greatest receiver of all time.
The people who put Brady over manning are the same who over value playoff wins. The same who put elway over Marino.
I've never lost to Manning. I have a better career QB rating. I just won the Super Bowl and got SB MVP and I'm 27.
Yeah. I bet he's really sour towards Manning.
That was quite an assumption you made with zero basis or information on who even the person was.
Manning has had a top tier offensive weapons his whole career, along with a strong o-line; yes he has some big time numbers, but with Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Anthony Gonzalez, Joeseph Addi, Edrin James and so on... along with Jeff Saturday and a couple other good linemen, and he's only won it all once... so yes you could say he's over rated, but thats just my opnion, he's a HELL of a lot better then what Ryan Leaf ever was/will be thats for sure
Jesus Walked on water
Peyton Manning swims through land!