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    CNN's Erickson Suggests Government Should Not "Accommodate" Atheists

    As we noted yesterday, CNN's Erick Erickson used President Obama's call for a moment of silence as an excuse to question Obama's faith:

    I feel the need to make a political point here about why this President is getting bashed for his "moment of silence" when other Presidents, from Carter to Reagan to Bush to Clinton to Bush, did not.

    He recently made people mad by quoting the Declaration of Independence and leaving out the bit about the Creator. During his inaugural address he mentioned atheists and subsequently proclaimed us not a Christian nation.

    In yesterday's "moment of silence" he wanted prayer or reflection. Here's the problem when conservatives push for school prayer and advocate for a "National Day of Prayer," they include "or reflection" to get around namby-pamby atheist objectors.

    But the left uses it too. The left uses it to accommodate atheists.

    President Obama's statement stands out because it is just another verbal telling that he's ideologically of the left. He already has problems with a public perception of him and his faith. That things like this keep coming up suggests the general public is right in their skepticism of the sincerity of his faith.


    Note that Erickson explicitly spelled out his bad-faith approach to politics, justifying hypocritical conservative criticism of Barack Obama on the flimsy grounds that Barack Obama is "of the left." Seriously, that's all he's saying here. He may try to dress it up as something else, but that whole passage boils down to "Sure, Barack Obama merely did what Republican presidents before him did, but there's a reason why conservatives criticize him for it: He's of the left."

    But that just demonstrates yet again that Erickson is a hack; it isn't what's truly offensive about the post. That would be Erickson's suggestion that the president should not "accommodate atheists," even in such a small way as saying "prayer or reflection." Erickson doesn't bother to explain what's wrong with "accommodating" atheists, or whether he plans to lead an effort to repeal the First Amendment. He just treats it as a given that atheists should not be accommodated -- and that the president should insist that people pray.

    How long do you think CNN would retain Erickson's services if he made similar disparaging comments about "accommodating" Catholics or Jews? Maybe about five minutes?

    Then again, CNN tends to overlook things it shouldn't when it comes to Erickson. In March of 2009, Erickson wrote: "At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator's house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?" A year later, CNN hired him. Two weeks after that, Erickson said he'd pull a gun on government employees if they tried to arrest him for not filling out the census.
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    Then again, CNN tends to overlook things it shouldn't when it comes to Erickson. In March of 2009, Erickson wrote: "At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator's house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?" A year later, CNN hired him. Two weeks after that, Erickson said he'd pull a gun on government employees if they tried to arrest him for not filling out the census.
    So atheists are being coupled with criminals now? Or did I read this wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iansnightout View Post
    So atheists are being coupled with criminals now? Or did I read this wrong?
    I think you may have...

    I think what they're saying with that is, it's probably not a good idea to hire a guy that wants to pull politicians into the street and beat them.
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    hmmm...I don't think he's accommodating anyone and there shouldn't be an issue if he is. Why should any group be excluded, even if evidence suggests an atheist candidate would have like a 10% success rate.

    That said, I don't think calling something a prayer means it is a deist action. Obviously it's implied based on the person's personal beliefs, but you don't have to pray to a god.

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    Although Erickson is horribly off-base and should be fired ...

    Let's not play the victim card here. That card feels awfully, well, familiar, if you catch my drift.

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    Erickson is kept around on that network only because he is to the right and CNN doesnt want to appear bias and it cant compete with the other networks for one side of the audience like Fox and MSNBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    I think you may have...

    I think what they're saying with that is, it's probably not a good idea to hire a guy that wants to pull politicians into the street and beat them.
    After reading further, it appears I read it wrong. At any rate, the dude's a tool.
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    Must be a slow day at Media Matters when they feel like there aren't enough targets at Fox News or on talk radio, and they have to start going after CNN too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgersFan28 View Post
    Must be a slow day at Media Matters when they feel like there aren't enough targets at Fox News or on talk radio, and they have to start going after CNN too.
    Do you defend Erickson though?

    I'm not a media matters guy at all (their as partisan as you can get) but your just attacking the source without making a point the other way. Erickson did say that

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    Media Matters takes people out of context all the time, often times in a blatently dishonest fashion. I don't really care who they claim said what when. If it's significant, it'll pop up somewhere other than Media Matters.
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    To be clear, I don't read, or visit, Media Matters. It was posted on Facebook by the American Humanist Association, which is how I heard about it.


    Edit: Though, I have to say I find it odd that you'd want people to ignore that it's Glenn Beck saying something and just pay attention to what he's saying, but when it's Media Matters you don't care what they're saying, only that it's Media Matters saying it.
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    We shouldn't accomodate any atheists at all.

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    hy do youa guys carea bou this stuff at all?? it s like sooooooooooo unliveably stupid that i cantt figure aout awhy ani rational persun wou be outragged about athis. let ths guy hvae his seajawks.

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    Someone looks drunk.
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    This isn't anything new. Erikson seems to be making more of it than it is though. If someone wants to reflect rather than pray, cool. Its just the Presiden;ts Give this some of your time". Don't like the President's views toward religion? Vote for the other candidate next time.

    I didn't see a big deal with it. EDIT*** (I don't see a big deal with the President's comments, not Erikson's coverage) Erikson needs to find more substantial things to get excited about, or make a better case. As for media matters, they are for me what Glenn Beck is for the other side. I've yet to hear them make a point in a way that I agree with. They could have done so here, but failed yet again by missing the mark on Erikson. ut the larger point is that I found nothing wrong with the way the President handled this.
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