"If [Republicans] were around when Columbus set sail, they must have been founding members of the Flat Earth Society." -- Pres. Barack Obama
Giffords was one of the members of Congress "targeted" by Sarah Palin for their vote on health care. An image posted on Palin's Facebook page featured crosshairs over the geographical districts of 20 members of Congress. By painting the district and not the face, Palin avoided breaking an actual law. The better question might be, is there really a difference?
On Twitter, Palin linked to the page with this message: "Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page."
So why demonize her? Because when one uses metaphors that promote shooting someone, and that person is in fact shot, and NO contrition is shown from the person for their language and actions, they have in fact, demonized themselves, and it might be more correct to write that she has not been demonized, instead all that is being done is pointing out how she demonized herself.
Here is the question of the day, does anyone think that wealthy people should pay a lower percentage of their income to taxes than middle class people? Don't argue tax brackets, just a simple question. Do you think someone earning 46 million dollars should pay a lower percentage of their income than say someone earning sixty thousand?
IMO Palin deserves everything she gets. I've had it with her playing the victim everytime she shows her lack of knowledge, her own hypocrisy, or attempts at scaring people(i.e. death panels). She welcomes media attention, and should not get a pass.
On the show, I watched snippets of it just to guage what it was like. Seemed like every other boring family-reality TV show to me. They're basically all the same, except this one had its obvious political undertones. I don't know what he future plans are, but I think hat being on a reality TV show would hurt your credibility.
I just don't think Palin can complain about the media talking about her kids anymore(as long as its taseful), when has continued to put them in the national spotlight...most recently with this reality show.
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No "reload" rhetoric, so not exactly 1:1 of course. I can't take credit for finding that either, it is making the rounds. Same with this next example:
I don't point to these examples to make the point that "both sides do it". But gun metaphors, and quasi-violent metaphors are used in politics all the time. There was an entire show called "crossfire". Every time an election rolls around there are "battleground states". Look at the caption on the map posted "behind enemy lines" a war metaphor.
It can be differentiated from some of the stuff that Sarah Palin, and Sharon Angle have said, but I don't think in too meaningful of a way. I think the response would be to argue that the phrases used by Sarah Palin and Angle are more direct, and to the point. But I don't buy that that makes them any more "inciteful" or anything.
eta: And, one last point. I think Sarah Palin had the right response to this shooting. If she came out and showed "contrition" then she opens herself for even more attacks. Her best bet is to just offer condolences and shutup for a little while until all the facts are known, and emotions calm down a bit so a more rational discussion can be had.
Last edited by gcoll; 01-10-2011 at 02:20 PM.
The Target map (if I'm reading in correctly) seems to be targeting voters or states. Not specific people. I don't know if that was criticized when it originally came out. Today on the radio was the first I've heard of it but that seems harmless.
Palin made a map with cross hairs on it directed at specific districts and specific people. One of those people got shot so the media jumped on it. But from what I heard on the radio today it looks like conservatives are rallying around her, like you would expect so I don't think she is in danger of losing her job at Fox. I don't think Palin influenced this guy personally. But I'm not going to feel sorry for her if she is criticized.
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Bill is targeting Chicago voters with his next speech.
We should target Alice McKean because of her vote.
Those two things are nowhere near the same. And if anything, I erred on the side of being fair to Palin.
Again, I'm not pinning any sort of blame on Palin for this tragedy. Her little map actually skirted the bounds of the law, for what that's worth, but legal is legal is legal. I hope she fries in the PR arena because this sort of rhetoric is indefensible and unbecoming of a national (or any) politician. Besides that, I guess I couldn't care less though.
What has she ever accomplished?
But most of the people commenting on politics don't have any political accomplishments worthy of note.
That can not explain the level of hatred directed at Palin. "She hasn't accomplished much besides being elected Governor and running for VP!"...that doesn't seem like that should anger people.