Is obama really all that different from bush?

[nastynice]

...when it comes to foreign policy and the elite ruling class?

Chomsky's thoughts on it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63HNuL2tfNc

[bootleg42]

...when it comes to foreign policy and the elite ruling class?

Chomsky's thoughts on it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63HNuL2tfNc

He's 100% right.

Obama has been committing huge atrocities overseas.

On local economics, he is a little different than Bush.

Bush tried to completely privatize social security. Obama just allows unnecessary cuts to it.

[nastynice]

another video on him comparing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mA4HYTO790

[nastynice]

He's 100% right.

Obama has been committing huge atrocities overseas.

On local economics, he is a little different than Bush.

Bush tried to completely privatize social security. Obama just allows unnecessary cuts to it.

I know. I guess I find it so weird that people so passionately love one and hate the other, when they are basically both the same ****in thing

[Randy West]

Both parties have very minor differences in how they rule. They blow any reason they can up to point the other as the bad guy. Keep the majority divided so no one is paying attention while they rape and plunder.

[FlakeyFool]

Obama black
Bush white

[nastynice]

Obama black
Bush white

...well played sir

[nastynice]

Both parties have very minor differences in how they rule. They blow any reason they can up to point the other as the bad guy. Keep the majority divided so no one is paying attention while they rape and plunder.

yup. But then one can say they're picking the lesser of the two evils. Isn't that a fair answer? Or is that just feeding the system?

[Steel Curtain]

No difference

[Randy West]

yup. But then one can say they're picking the lesser of the two evils. Isn't that a fair answer? Or is that just feeding the system?

Yes they pick the lesser of two evils and then find that they actually weren't really much less evil. These parties rule over us no matter the letter behind the name one or the other is always in power. Have things changed a whole lot for you based on the letter behind the current ruling parties name?

They know they are the only game in town and can control who can and can't play that game. As long as they maintain total control over the system they just basically protect one another until it's the next corporations.....wait I mean parties turn.

They have us played out, they keep dropping a hundred dollar chip on the floor for us to fight over while they clear the table of all the thousand dollar chips while we aren't looking.

The parties keep us divided because they know we couldn't be conquered otherwise. The typical American voter is just dumb enough to keep trying the same thing over and over and expect a different result.

That's exactly how politicians regardless of the letter behind the name want it. Keep fighting over scraps while they take the meal and some.

[{Ron!n}]

I think theyre both just as bad with regards to foreign affairs, Obama just has a better way with words and puts a "prettier" face to his policies.

[IndyFan]

I disagree. At least about the foreign policy part. Bush lied to start a war. Obama closed down that war and is trying to stay out of Syria. There is a huge difference between the GOP 'World's Policeman' and the Democrats 'Terrorist Posse' approaches.

[Longhornfan1234]

I disagree. At least about the foreign policy part. Bush lied to start a war. Obama closed down that war and is trying to stay out of Syria. There is a huge difference between the GOP 'World's Policeman' and the Democrats 'Terrorist Posse' approaches.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

[Longhornfan1234]

I'm warming up to Obama. Obama's admin has been one of the most pro business presidency's this country has ever seen.

[dbroncos78087]

Notice how those quotes end right around the time that invasion actually happened because as more facts came out the country started to realize that it got lied into trillions of dollars in unnecessary spending, tens of thousands or our people dead, and millions of people in other countries who grew to hate us because they saw us as the dictators telling them what to do.