Last edited by drobe86; 09-23-2010 at 06:30 PM.
Ochocinco: 2008 53 catches, 540 yards, 4 TDs, 13 games.
Andre Johnson: 2005 63 catches, 688 yards, 2 TDs, 13 games.
Anquan Boldin: 2004 56 catches, 623 yards, 1 TD, 10 games.
Steve Smith: 2009 65 catches, 982 yards, 7 TDs, 15 games.
Terrell Owens: 2009 55 catches, 829 yards, 5 TDs, 16 games.
What do all these years have in common?
a. you said all these receivers produce EVERY year, which clearly they don't.
b. All of them were during a year where the teams QB SUCKED.
Doesn't reason B. SOUND REMARKABLY SIMILAR TO THE LIONS LAST YEAR?!
Maybe that was why CJ's stats were down...
IN FACT. Looking at CJs stats last year, they pretty much on par with all of these guys... And that's not even looking at his 2nd year stats, which were downright PHENOMENAL considering his team (and quarterback) absolutely blew (in fact, their as good as Austin's 1 good year aren't they? imagine CJ with Romo ).
And the second sentence reeks of idiocy for the reason I just posted. It's not that their TEAMS sucked, it's that their QUARTERBACKS SUCK. So unless your willing to sit here and tell me Romo sucks I say your argument is baseless...
So they don't matter when talking about Dallas' record but they are the end all be all for WR comparisons?
Your arguments are literally so pathetic it takes absolutely no effort on anyone's part to refute them. Yes you named the first 5 WRs in the league statistically, and they are a pretty decent list of best WRs, but under your reasoning the 5-12th best WRs in the LEAGUE in 2010 are:
See how WRONG your point is. Tell me, with a straight face, that you HONESTLY believe Kevin Walter or Mario Manningham is better than Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Marques Colston, or Greg Jennings...
Do you EVEN watch football or do you ONLY use stats?
Either way, I've lost respect for Miles Austin now because I know people like you cheer for him...
He may be going to waste on the Lions, but the little success he's had in a bad situation is a sign of greatness (equate it with Randy Moss's stint with the Raiders....not exactly the same, but still a drop off from a VERY talented WR).
Stats don't make any player elite; skills make them elite.
To every QB in the NFL, welcome to your own personal hell.
Andre: 208 catches, 2,806 yards, 12 TDs
Larry: 230 catches, 3,135 yards, 24 TDs
Really? Those stats are better? So Andre having -265 yards and 9 less TDs is better?
I'll give you that Larry's was better... by a WHOPPING 37 catches, 64 yards, and 3 TDs...
Also consider Andre has never had a 10 TD season, something Calvins done.
And Larry has never averaged 15 yards a catch, something Calvins done.
They were the same stats. Do you get tired of being proven wrong OVER AND OVER on this thread?! Just curious...
And your last sentence proves you don't WATCH football. Saying that Larry was HINDERED because he had another good WR on the other side is the most idiotic thing I've heard. He wasn't hindered, he was tremendously helped because with Anquan on the other side, the Defense couldn't focus coverage on him, they had to spread it out, meaning he faced less double teams.
Sorry, I was talking football for a second, I'll try to refrain because I know you don't like it...
Calvin Johnson had freakin' Roy Williams starting opposite him in his rookie season as well...
^ Roy Williams freaking blows.
Now he does, definitely. Not back then. He put up 836 yards in 12 games during Calvin's first season. And that was coming off of his 1300 yard season.