All this while playing on one of the worst teams with an inexperienced quarterback throwing him the ball and a bad o-line to go with that. Most of the balls he catches are difficult too.
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drobe, let me ask you this.
How many Lions games do you watch every year? I'm guessing not too many, because let's be honest, they aren't in the division, and they've been a crappy team. Hey, I'm the same way, I don't watch alot of Lions games at all.
Are you just focusing on Calvin's stats? Dude watch Calvin making plays. Go to NFL.com, watch some video. The guy is a monster.
To every QB in the NFL, welcome to your own personal hell.
We were not terrible before TO left we digressed after he left us in shambles (It is ok most children cant remember that far back).
Andre Johnson is a very unique player who is very similar to your overrated buddy Calvin in body type, hands , & routes. Funny thing is that Andre Johnson diddnt have his best years until Matt Shaub came to the Texans in 2007 Johnson got injured that year but the next 2 years were his best in 2008-2009.
I will agree with you on this that Cincy was a laughing stock & Chad Johnson(OchoCinco) was still one of the most productive receivers in the past decade.
Another guy is Steve Smith you forgot about.
He won the Triple crown in receiving 2005 after missing the whole 2004 season(only 3 people have ever won the triple crown in the nfl-Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpe, & Steve Smith).
He has had Jake Delhomme as his QB for most of his career and still has put up amazing numbers for such a lousy QB.
Most receivers dont have the luxury of having a awesome QB (like Steve Smith).
You cant debate the productivity a guy would have from Peyton manning throwing him the ball compared to Kyle Orton.....
Just keep that in mind before you call somebody overrated.
Hahahah You must really want people to wax Miles balls.
CJ is an absolute monster.
You keep saying the team doesn't matter when in some circumstances it may not but, when you play on a team that looked like a deer in the Head lights it does. He is a freak of nature and has natural ability.
He has warranted amazing catches and anytime the Lions decide to remember he is on there team he can absolutely take over a game. I don't see a single CB that can match him comfortably except maybe Revis who I wouldn't be surprised if even that didn't end well for him.
You don't get the nickname MEGATRON for being a soft *** player.
Calvin's first three seasons have been better than Andre Johnson's first three seasons. And it's relatively safe to say, IMO, that Calvin is going to at the very least put up equal stats to Andre in both of their first 5 seasons (even if you consider Calvin a sub-1,000 yard receiver). What happened to Andre? He got a God damn QB who could throw the ball.
Let's compare Calvin's first three seasons to Fitzgerald's:
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Year G Yards Year G Yards
1 15 756 1 58 780
2 16 1331 2 103 1409
3 16 984 3 69 946
Total 45 3071 Total 45 3135
I don't get what you're arguing here. Calvin has strong stats. He had a strong rookie year, a spectacular second season and last season he had 984 yards in 14 games (more like 13, as he left in the 1st quarter of the Pittsburgh game with 1 reception for 2 yards). That translates to, what, 1100 yards in a 16 game season? My God that's awful. And oh man, he's off to a sub-par start this season. Wow. Awful. Because all great receivers have 16 games of 100 yards or more each season. And because Shaun Hill has a really strong arm. Come on. The dude is good for 1,000 yards per year.
Not to mention the fact that Johnson has been disappointing statistically through two games this season, and at this pace, he's still a 800 yard receiver.
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And Ocho cinco has had Carson Palmer his whole life. And T.O had Steve Young and Jeff Garcia Calvin Johnson had done alot from nothing with guys like Kitna and Culpepper . He should of won the game against the bears but that was a clutch game winning TD.
Dudes a beast and I hope one day there GM makes a dumb mistake and trade him to the Redskins.
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In 1992, Rice had 8 catches for 82 yards and 0 TD in the first two games. He finished that season with 84 rec, 1201 yards, 10 TDs.
Maybe your sample size is too small there? Maybe WRs are inconsistent because of the nature of the position, even the GOAT himself? Maybe you're just cherry picking because you have no idea what you're talking about?