props to Bee for the sig!!
a lot more stats than just HR and RBI
I don't know why you even waste your time jlohm.
props to Bee for the sig!!
Why would anyone want to trade Jay Bruce? He's the 2nd best hitter on this team. If he takes the one quarter of a season last year where he was a beast and translates that into a full year - hell even half a year - he's an mvp candidate.
From April 25th to June 8th last year (40 games) he hit .331 / .403 / .682 (OPS of 1.085).
And there is no reason to believe he can't put it all together - outside of 1 month in 2010 he had a .308 BA that year (July 3rd to August 7th).
Last edited by Kinsm; 01-25-2012 at 02:51 AM.
His .814 OPS last year ranked 26th in the NL (amongst quaifiers). Should the Marins trade Mike Stanton?
"Nothing special" players don't get 50 milion dollar contracts when they were only 23 years old.
Last edited by Kinsm; 01-25-2012 at 02:34 AM.
He's decent but he's no superstar. His value to the team is far below what they could have hauled in a trade when he was in AAA.
Top 30 offensive player doesn't make you a star. I said he was good but he's not a SUPERstar.
He was once similar to Wily Mo Pena so that doesn't say much. The similar players thing is just a hey this is kinda cool thing but it's nothing to judge a player by. When Jay Bruce is in the HoF I'll give you an all expenses paid trip to see that.
I don't get some of you guys. I guess Joey Votto is "kinda special"??????
Look, if you want to go back in time, I would say that his market value would be similar to Yonder (#1 prospect). Yonder was part of a deal that got us Latos. Latos is sub .500 in wins with a good ERA in Petco Park. But it took Volquez and Grandle to complete the trade. A prospect in AAA staight up would maybe get you what.... A good middle relief guy? You would go back in time for that. Look nobody put him in the superstar category. In my opinion Votto isn't there yet (just because I think you have to prove stardum over and over, and he will). So not Superstar.... Star.
I think I get what jlohm1 is saying about Bruce. Its' not that the guy is without talent, but there have been countless players at the major league level with the same potential who never lived up to the hype. I remember hearing the same kind of talk about Austin Kearns. Bruce is special in the sense that he has the tools to be very successful, but he hasn't fully lived up to that potential. He needs to find a level consistency throughout the season. So it's hard to say that he is truly a special player just yet, really good though. Definitely not a star.
Bruce's HR and RBI totals have went up each of the last four seasons, so he is getting better in those areas. However, his batting average needs to improve. We have seen a drastic variance in that category from year-to-year. At the plate Bruce looks a lot like Ryan Ludwick from 2007-2010, and nobody is saying that he is special or a star for that matter. That said, where Bruce excels is with his defense, it sets him apart from players like Ludwick.
As far as trading Bruce when he was in AAA. I can't answer that, depends on who I get in return. Nobody is untradable.