Oilers get first overall

[carson005]

If you watch the two play the talent gap is evident.

[BranWingss]

If you watch the two play the talent gap is evident.

I've seen them both play a few times last year, and this year. It would be a waste since they have RNH. I think Seguin will have the better career, but not by much. Hall's a very skilled player, who sometimes just tries to do too much.

Taylor Hall, like Seguin, will be a PPG player for a few seasons.

[carson005]

It's never a waste to have two elite players. And no I don't think he will. Hall sucks.

[Ebbs]

What's a PPG player?

[BranWingss]

It's never a waste to have two elite players. And no I don't think he will. Hall sucks.

Seguin is at a PPG, Hall is just under it. Hall has been better through a year and a half, so I don't see how Seguin is by far a better player. Hall was fantastic last year, not so much Seguin. This is Seguin's breakout season, but he isn't that far ahead of Hall.

Tyler Seguin has 25 points in 25 games.
Taylor Hall has 18 points in 22 games.

Tyler Seguin has 47 career points in 99 career games.
Taylor Hall has 60 career points in 87 career games.

Not far off thus far. Looks like both will be a star, and odds are they'll both be close to each other throughout their careers.

So why have two centres, when you already have a future all-star in the middle? Much better having Taylor Hall, and then using Jordan Eberle (who's the best out of the bunch atm) on the second line, later in their careers.

Edmonton isn't exactly loaded on the wing, nor were they when they drafted Taylor Hall.

What's a PPG player?

Point per game.

[Ebbs]

oh I thought it might be different in hockey.

[carson005]

I've seen RNH play the wing a ton of times. It's not like hes incapable

[BranWingss]

I've seen RNH play the wing a ton of times. It's not like hes incapable

But he's much better in the middle.

[NCBoSoxfan21]

If you watch the two play the talent gap is evident.

Year 		Player 	GP 	G 	A 	P 	G/G 	P/G
2005 	Sidney Crosby 	81 	39 	63 	102 	0.481 	1.259
2007 	Patrick Kane 	82 	21 	51 	72 	0.256 	0.878
2009 	Matt Duchene 	81 	24 	31 	55 	0.296 	0.679
2009 	John Tavares 	82 	24 	30 	54 	0.293 	0.659
2010 	Taylor Hall 	65 	22 	20 	42 	0.338 	0.646
2008 	Steven Stamkos 	79 	23 	23 	46 	0.291 	0.582
2006 	Jordan Staal 	81 	29 	13 	42 	0.358 	0.519
2006 	Phil Kessel 	70 	11 	18 	29 	0.157 	0.414
2009 	Evander Kane 	66 	14 	12 	26 	0.212 	0.394

He's obviously not Sidney Crosby (who is?) but he's right in the midst of the Duchene, Tavares, Stamkos group. A better power play gets him clear of the entire group and right in behind Patrick Kane. His goals per game rate is even more encouraging. Toss out the season in which Jordan Staal shot a ridiculous 22% and Hall is the best non-Crosby goal scorer in the group. Wow.

[Embryo]

Year 		Player 	GP 	G 	A 	P 	G/G 	P/G
2005 	Sidney Crosby 	81 	39 	63 	102 	0.481 	1.259
2007 	Patrick Kane 	82 	21 	51 	72 	0.256 	0.878
2009 	Matt Duchene 	81 	24 	31 	55 	0.296 	0.679
2009 	John Tavares 	82 	24 	30 	54 	0.293 	0.659
2010 	Taylor Hall 	65 	22 	20 	42 	0.338 	0.646
2008 	Steven Stamkos 	79 	23 	23 	46 	0.291 	0.582
2006 	Jordan Staal 	81 	29 	13 	42 	0.358 	0.519
2006 	Phil Kessel 	70 	11 	18 	29 	0.157 	0.414
2009 	Evander Kane 	66 	14 	12 	26 	0.212 	0.394

He's obviously not Sidney Crosby (who is?) but he's right in the midst of the Duchene, Tavares, Stamkos group. A better power play gets him clear of the entire group and right in behind Patrick Kane. His goals per game rate is even more encouraging. Toss out the season in which Jordan Staal shot a ridiculous 22% and Hall is the best non-Crosby goal scorer in the group. Wow.

Honestly, hate to burst your bubble, but the Rangers' Derek Stepan had better numbers than Steven Stamkos his rookie season (last year) Those stats don't mean much unless you are willing to put Stepan up there, above Evander Kane.

[NCBoSoxfan21]

Hate to burst your bubble but they still have merit even without Stepan. Stepan has nothing to do with this conversation other than he had a good rookie season. You only complain bc you're a NYR fan...

The above poster I responded to said Hall sucked and Seguin was much better. My evidence proves Hall is just short of the elite group of young players. And better than Seguin.

Stepan had a good rookie season, but he's not in Hall, P. Kane, Tavares region.

Also in what word was Stepan's rookie campaign better than Stamkos?

Stepan had 21 goals, 45 points in 82 games. Stamkos had 23 goals and 42 points in 79 games. I'd say they were even, but Stamkos did have 3 less games.