The thing with Dickey for the 9th had more to do with KRod getting a chance to pitch than Dickey's pitch count. KRod at the time hadn't worked in a few games so he wanted KRod to get a chance to work...Originally Posted by NoQuarter
That was the reason behind it
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06-29-2010, 12:46 PM #181
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Just because you have a reason does not make it a good decision, he had reasons for Jacobs and GMJ getting the nods out of ST as well. Originally Posted by kyubi256
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06-29-2010, 12:54 PM #183
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Technically it is a good enough reason because you do not want KRod coming out there with dead arm in a crucial save situation. You have to keep the pen fresh so they don't get bombed like Nieve has been getting lately.
Getting your CP work so he does not get dead arm is more important than a personal stat for Mr. Dickey
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06-29-2010, 01:05 PM #184
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His comments are totally hypocritical, but not because of pulling Dickey. From the day he and Warthen took over, they both said they wouldn't use pitch counts and wanted their starters going deeper into games. Yet how many times did Santana get the hook with 100-110 pitches after going 7 or 8 innings. Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Jerry has cost Johan about 7-10 wins by doing this in two years as his Manager.
Pulling Dickey, however was the right move to get KRod some work. A journeyman getting a shutout is not the same kind of milestone as someone pitching a no hitter. I'm okay with what Jerry did this time, but he and rosy cheeks are still hypocrites and habitual liars.
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06-29-2010, 01:13 PM #185
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I have to respectfully disagree with you two. KRod can get work any day, I think milestones like the one Dickey had a chance to achieve are very important for role players.
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06-29-2010, 08:30 PM #186
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KRod hadn't pitched in 4 or 5 days, so the decision was made before game time that he was going to pitch that day. A complete game shutout would have felt good, but really has no historical impact like a no hitter. Taking Dickey out had nothing to do with pitch counts.
Jerry has made a lot of bone headed managerial moves in the last two years. This just wasn't one of them.
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06-29-2010, 10:47 PM #187
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Magoo put it best: Manuel has made many boneheaded moves in his tenure as manager. This wasn't one of them. Originally Posted by NoQuarter
"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
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Wow...you and I on the same page. Feels like it's been years since that happened. Originally Posted by fanofclendennon
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06-29-2010, 10:57 PM #189
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I know. Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo
What the heck has happened to you lately???"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
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06-29-2010, 11:09 PM #190
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Me? What has happened to you? Originally Posted by fanofclendennon
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06-29-2010, 11:17 PM #191
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LOL, moi?????? You're pointing a finger at a Bishop? Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo
Have you no shame, sir?"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
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06-29-2010, 11:21 PM #192
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A Bishop who crucified his savior (yeah, where has that happened before) 6 months ago...hmm...King takes Bishop. Originally Posted by fanofclendennon
Check, and mate, sir.
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Oh, that is soooo unfair when I was the first one in here to annoint him as a savior to begin with. Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo
You play a rigged game.
King you say?
Here King, Here King! Good boy!"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
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06-29-2010, 11:38 PM #194
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You only annointed him when he pleased you. You crucified him (and Omar) when he was signed. Originally Posted by fanofclendennon
Oh, and do you have beggin strips?
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06-29-2010, 11:43 PM #195
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Yes, I mocked the signing as did many people in here. Truth be told, i never heard of him. Like everyone else, I saw his numbers and laughed. Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo
After his first two appearances with the Mets, I changed my tune and posted a thread saying it looks like our pitching staff is shaping up with Dickey and Taka leading the way. Many laughed at me but I stood by him. No one's laughing anymore.
What's your excuse?"Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."
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