Official Trade Rumors/Idea Thread

**gambitx777** · 05-07-2012, 09:46 PM

**topdog** · 06-05-2012, 08:30 PM

Just curious about another team forum's point of view:

Derrick Williams for #3 pick and Andray Blatche (addition by subtraction)

I'd like my Wolves to get Beal to team with Rubio and Love.

**SluggeR** · 06-05-2012, 10:40 PM

This team needs a legit 2guard and needs to figure out what type of big best compliments NeNe.

**gambitx777** · 06-06-2012, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by topdog

Just curious about another team forum's point of view:

Derrick Williams for #3 pick and Andray Blatche (addition by subtraction)

I'd like my Wolves to get Beal to team with Rubio and Love.

no......... but it would be a decent deal if, it looked more like this.

bleatche and our 3ed for your 18th, D will and maybe Randolph. and even that would be a bit lop sided. i mean for the 3ed thats a bit on the small side. besides the last time we gave a top 5 pick to the wolfs it went badly for us lol.

**John X Doe** · 06-06-2012, 06:28 AM

What does anyone think of trading next year's #1 (with Blatche to seal the deal) for Iguodala? He can play SG and would be a veteran complement that isn't found in the backcourt with leadership ability. He doesn't have to score but certainly can and has good size and lockdown defensive ability. Coupled with potentially Thomas Robinson, the team would be ready to compete now while developing Singleton & Vesely with Iguodala able to spell minutes at #3 when needed.

Would anyone offer more than what we could? What exactly is his value coming off a sub-par scoring year? Could this work?

Then I'd love to trade our 2nd rounder with Crawford for a real shooter. Lots of SG's in this draft class. I'd target John Jenkins from Vanderbilt.

**topdog** · 06-06-2012, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by gambitx777

no......... but it would be a decent deal if, it looked more like this.

bleatche and our 3ed for your 18th, D will and maybe Randolph. and even that would be a bit lop sided. i mean for the 3ed thats a bit on the small side. besides the last time we gave a top 5 pick to the wolfs it went badly for us lol.

Randolph wouldn't work because he is a free agent i.e. sign-and-trade can't happen until July 1st. If losing Blatche concerns you then take him out (I thought he was the scourge of Washington). Williams was the 2nd pick last year so it's that plus another pick and taking on a long and unwanted contract. I get you though.

Yeah, but hey you got John Wall! That's... something, right?

mamba24 · 06-06-2012, 02:20 PM

I dont know if any of you have heard this yet... i heard the wizards are trying to move to #2 to get kidd-gilchrist. trade the 3rd and crawford to the robertcats for it. the robertcats want drummond

**gambitx777** · 06-07-2012, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by topdog

Randolph wouldn't work because he is a free agent i.e. sign-and-trade can't happen until July 1st. If losing Blatche concerns you then take him out (I thought he was the scourge of Washington). Williams was the 2nd pick last year so it's that plus another pick and taking on a long and unwanted contract. I get you though.

Yeah, but hey you got John Wall! That's... something, right?

awhhhhh your right on that one but you still misunderstand me. blatche needs to go but giving a pick and a player away for one player is just not a good move. you should never trad a first rounder with out getting a first in return under any conditions.

i added randoulph in for cap reasons and that if you sign and trade him to the wiz, you guys get a trade exception for him. since you guys are probably giving him the boot any way, that would mean we are in turn giving you that exception in exchange for taking blatche. catch my drift.

but again williams and your 18th for blatch and our 3ed would probably be a fair deal. considering there will still be good 2 guards and SF left at that point.

Originally Posted by mamba24

I dont know if any of you have heard this yet... i heard the wizards are trying to move to #2 to get kidd-gilchrist. trade the 3rd and crawford to the robertcats for it. the robertcats want drummond

stupid move. VERY, VERY STUPID MOVE. here is why the 3 players that the wiz would want, Robinson, MKG and Beal, 2 of the 3 will still be on the board at that point and if they want drummand let them take him at 2 and the wiz can get MKG at the 3 spot. it would be a huge mistake to move up. as i have been saying for moths the wiz should move down. NOT UP! if MKG is gone flip a coin and take robinson or beal it would be an awful move. !

**John X Doe** · 06-07-2012, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by gambitx777

awhhhhh your right on that one but you still misunderstand me. blatche needs to go but giving a pick and a player away for one player is just not a good move. you should never trad a first rounder with out getting a first in return under any conditions.

i added randoulph in for cap reasons and that if you sign and trade him to the wiz, you guys get a trade exception for him. since you guys are probably giving him the boot any way, that would mean we are in turn giving you that exception in exchange for taking blatche. catch my drift.

but again williams and your 18th for blatch and our 3ed would probably be a fair deal. considering there will still be good 2 guards and SF left at that point.

stupid move. VERY, VERY STUPID MOVE. here is why the 3 players that the wiz would want, Robinson, MKG and Beal, 2 of the 3 will still be on the board at that point and if they want drummand let them take him at 2 and the wiz can get MKG at the 3 spot. it would be a huge mistake to move up. as i have been saying for moths the wiz should move down. NOT UP! if MKG is gone flip a coin and take robinson or beal it would be an awful move. !

That's only assuming you're right. How do you know who the Bullets want? You have inside sources? From a value perspective, you stay put IF you have other guys you like. But if they covet MKG as the Redskins did RGIII, (and no one else) they need to move up to secure him. Apparently they see him as a #2 if they indeed like him. But we don't know who they like yet in spite of the one-liner rumor posted here without a source. There have not even been workouts. And we may not know until draft day as we weren't aware of their coveting Vesely last year.

As for your intention to move down, I don't agree. This team has been stockpiling young talent for several years now and they now need to get the best players. Quality > quantity. The reason I say this is the drastic turn-around witnessed last year upon Nene's arrival. This team is void of veteran leadership and playing experience. It's a very immature team with two of the three most immature players gone. Blatche remains. They don't need additional young talent to develop. They need to select the best player at #3 and sign a solid veteran leader who can mend this baby team. As I suggested earlier, I would go after Iguodala for this very reason....to provide veteran leadership with his vast experience. No more multiple #1 picks. Get the best players and start progressing.

**papipapsmanny** · 06-07-2012, 12:42 PM

Reports are the hornets would trade the number 10 pick as a means to get out of Ariza's or Okefors contracts

I would trade them a future 2nd, take on Ariza and get the 10th pick

Get Beal at number 3

and t number 10 get Perry Jones III as a meh risk and high reward guy

Wall/Mack
Crawford/Beal
Ariza/Singleton/Lewis
Vesely/Booker/PJ3
Nene/Seraphin

a lot of youth and talent, and lineup flexibility

**gambitx777** · 06-15-2012, 02:20 PM

well i was thinking, the cav are kind of thin and center, so what if we offer blatche for walton. i mean walton is totally useless, but if it gets blatche off the book it worth it. maybe even give the cavs a 2ed rounder to sweeten the deal. he is a near 7 footer with potential and he does play better at the 5 than he does at the 4.

**John X Doe** · 06-16-2012, 08:20 AM

Does anyone know what we would have to give up to attain Brook Lopez who's an RFA this offseason other than just signing him to a generous offer sheet (we've got money)? I think he'd be a great fit at PF with Seraphin and Booker backing him up as he can shoot the ball bringing out the opposing PF spreading out defenses giving Wall and our new SG (MKG?) lanes to penetrate.
The more I read about MKG, the more I like him and believe he'd be the best fit for the Bullets.

**gambitx777** · 06-18-2012, 06:52 PM

we would have to over pay him. ALOT.
also i hear a lot of people here wanting beasly and gordon.
those two would be the worst free agents for us to go after!. one is a true blue bone head. he are trying to get ride of one of those, why bring in another. and remember the last guard with bad legs that we gave a max contract to. we all know how that ended.

these are some free agents that would really help out team. most and URF, and would not totally break the bank.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4274/landry-fields
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3211/spencer-hawes
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3192/aaron-brooks
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

all of these are good options and only two of them are restricted. forget about gordon he will probably never be fully healthy and when beasley implodes in on him self, it does not need to happen in Washington.

**John X Doe** · 06-19-2012, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by gambitx777

we would have to over pay him. ALOT.
also i hear a lot of people here wanting beasly and gordon.
those two would be the worst free agents for us to go after!. one is a true blue bone head. he are trying to get ride of one of those, why bring in another. and remember the last guard with bad legs that we gave a max contract to. we all know how that ended.

these are some free agents that would really help out team. most and URF, and would not totally break the bank.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4274/landry-fields
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3211/spencer-hawes
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3192/aaron-brooks
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

all of these are good options and only two of them are restricted. forget about gordon he will probably never be fully healthy and when beasley implodes in on him self, it does not need to happen in Washington.

I agree. I definitely don't want Beasley, down on Mayo and feel Gordon is risky. Beal would be our own younger, healthier version of Gordon.

Thanks for providing those free agents. Some of them would be awesome to build the depth of the team. Belinelli could be a starter and an option should we go after Robinson. Hawes should be our #1 target to provide depth at center that we're lacking. Also, Ilyasova would be a great complement to the PF's we currently have...more so than Green IMO. This is a great list on non-max type players that are young yet not too expensive to build upon this team.

I would also like to see the Bullets possibly move up to get Fab Melo as a project who could become a solid player learning under Nene.

**stuckyfreshhh** · 06-19-2012, 11:38 AM

I know I'm definitely in the minority but I still have love for Beasley. He's from the area and I think he's started to mature the past two seasons in Minn. I know he's a risk but he's still got all the potential in the world (6' 10 lefty and still only 23 yrs old) and we're desperate for wing players who can shoot from the peremiter and can create their own shot. A SF combo of Beasley and Signleton could be a nice pairing. And I doubt Beasley would cost much, maybe a sign and trade for Blatche? Could work out for both teams as Blatche can play some Center.

Then we could go Beal in the draft at 3 and have enough nice scoring punch on the wings.

Wall/Mack
Beal/Crawford
Beasley/Singleton
Booker/Vessly
NeNe/Seraphin

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