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    AL NL sabermetric all star teams

    If you took away fan voting and went strictly by the numbers up to this point who should be the starters on the AL and NL all star teams this year?

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    Mauer
    Youkilis
    Zobrist
    Jeter
    Longoria
    Crawford
    Ichiro
    Cruz

    McCann
    Pujols
    Utley
    Hanley
    Zimmerman
    Kemp
    Upton
    Braun

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    That's a lot of work. Lincecum vs. Greinke though.

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    AL:
    P (starter) - Zack Grienke
    C - Joe Mauer
    1st - Justin Morneau
    2nd - Ben Zobrist
    3rd - Evan Longoria
    SS - Jason Bartlett
    LF - Carl Crawford
    CF - Torii Hunter
    RF - Ichiro Suzuki
    1 Reliever - David Aardasma




    NL:
    P (starter) - Tim Lincecum
    C - Brian McCann
    1st - Albert Pujols
    2nd - Chase Utley
    3rd - Pablo Sandoval
    SS - Hanley Ramirez
    LF - Ryan Bruan
    CF - Matt Kemp
    RF - Brad Hawpe
    1 Reliever - Jonathan Broxton

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    Have a hard time believing Hawpe and Braun with their steel glove and all.
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    Some posters like yourself don't understand how a single is better then a home run,
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    Yeah Braun isn't a terrible LF, strong arm, mediocre range...with his bat it doesn't matter too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viktor06 View Post
    McCann
    Pujols
    Utley
    Hanley
    Zimmerman
    Kemp
    Upton
    Braun
    Please try and explain how Zimmerman is better than Pablo Sandoval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantspwn View Post
    Please try and explain how Zimmerman is better than Pablo Sandoval.
    Defense. Zimmerman is at a 3.1 WAR right now, Sandoval 2.7.
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    you over rate OBP. especially for the White Sox who leave countless in scoring position. RBI is a way more important stat then OBP anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantspwn View Post
    Please try and explain how Zimmerman is better than Pablo Sandoval.
    Defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewersfan729 View Post
    Defense. Zimmerman is at a 3.1 WAR right now, Sandoval 2.7.
    Sandoval's .423 wOBA* more then makes up the difference(Zimmerman is .369)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carson005 View Post
    Sandoval's .423 wOBA* more then makes up the difference(Zimmerman is .369)
    WAR includes both hitting and defense.

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    P- CC Sabathia
    C- Victor Martinez
    1B- Mark Teixeira
    2B- Ian Kinsler
    SS- Derek Jeter
    3B- A-Rod
    LF- Johnny Damon
    CF- Torii Hunter
    RF- Ichiro

    Our QB > Yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by iam brett favre View Post
    P- CC Sabathia
    C- Victor Martinez
    1B- Mark Teixeira
    2B- Ian Kinsler
    SS- Derek Jeter
    3B- A-Rod
    LF- Johnny Damon
    CF- Torii Hunter
    RF- Ichiro
    And this is based on Sabermetrics how?

    I understand that people have their own opinions, but this a specific thread asking for sabermetrics teams.

    And I refuse to vote for Kinsler until he puts up an OPS of over .664 on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven View Post
    WAR includes both hitting and defense.
    Interesting(I love this forum because I learn something new every time )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven View Post
    And this is based on Sabermetrics how?

    I understand that people have their own opinions, but this a specific thread asking for sabermetrics teams.

    And I refuse to vote for Kinsler until he puts up an OPS of over .664 on the road.
    ARod: .408 wOba....12.6 bRRA
    Teixeira: .406.....19.7
    Damon: .399.......16.7
    Jeter: .386.......13.6
    Ichiro: .386.......12.9

    BOOM! Don't feel like looking up the others, to be honest.

    Our QB > Yours

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