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  1. #91
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    Simple question: Why the hell I had not heard about this forum being created?????

    I have homework to do and a lot of stuff to learn. God I love Baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papipapsmanny View Post
    Alright it seems that Ks have a lot of influence on tRA. When looking at beckett his k/9 innings is right in line with his career average. While Lester's is way higher than it has ever been. Would it be unreasonable to assume that Lester's k rates will come back down to earth some, meaning that his tRA will also decrease?
    No, because unlike stats like ERA, K's have nothing to do with luck. K's are a direct result of the kid of stuff/control you have, meaning Lester probably made some kind of adjustment allowing him to strike out more hitters.

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    Based on sabermetrics, who is better:
    Mark Teixiera or Kevin Youkilis
    ARod or David Wright

    Our QB > Yours

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    I would take A-Rod and Tex over Youk and Wright.

    Its pretty close though.
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    I'm an epic n00b, so sorry if this is a stupid question.

    How do you know if a pitcher is "lucky"?
    DUKE.

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    I think baseball people have way too much time on their hands with all these statistics that are meaningless. At the end of the day, wins and losses are the only stats that mean much of anything!
    PSD's Muhammad Wilkerson!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I think baseball people have way too much time on their hands with all these statistics that are meaningless. At the end of the day, wins and losses are the only stats that mean much of anything!
    Yes, wins and losses are what matter, but the best way to find the highest probability of these wins are through these stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I think baseball people have way too much time on their hands with all these statistics that are meaningless. At the end of the day, wins and losses are the only stats that mean much of anything!
    I think you have too much time on your hands if you managed to come up with such a stupid post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALLER71 View Post
    I'm an epic n00b, so sorry if this is a stupid question.

    How do you know if a pitcher is "lucky"?
    If their BABIP is significantly lower than their norm then they are lucky because balls are being hit towards fielders at an unusual rate. Over the long run their BABIP will rise to its normal rate which will lead to the pitcher performing to his true abilities. A good example of a pitcher who was "lucky" was Justin Duchscherer last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamhead View Post
    I think you have too much time on your hands if you managed to come up with such a stupid post.
    How is it stupid? Do you think it is stupid because I am 100% truthful? Ask the Phillies if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they were winning the World Series last year?

    Ask the Washington Nationals if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they finished with the worst record in baseball?

    Do they figure in Sabermetrics in determining who wins the World Series?

    No. It is done by who wins 4 games first in a 7 game World Series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    How is it stupid? Do you think it is stupid because I am 100% truthful? Ask the Phillies if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they were winning the World Series last year?

    Ask the Washington Nationals if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they finished with the worst record in baseball?

    Do they figure in Sabermetrics in determining who wins the World Series?

    No. It is done by who wins 4 games first in a 7 game World Series.
    You seem to be missing the point, of course in the end all that matters are the wins, but Sabermetrics are used to help determine the best way to win the most games in the future.

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    I want to bang my head against a wall.

    But if you really believe that, then fine. Just know that type of "logic" also means that ANY type of player evaluation method, such as good ol' scouting, is useless. It doesn't matter, right? All that mattes is winning f'ing 4 out of 7! Hell, let's throw out a team of chimps out there, maybe they can 4 out of 7!

    Did the Phillies give a **** about their director of scouting when they won the WS? Hell no. **** him.

    Honestly, I want to be banned for having to read that.
    Last edited by Seamhead; 07-07-2009 at 04:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    How is it stupid? Do you think it is stupid because I am 100% truthful? Ask the Phillies if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they were winning the World Series last year?

    Ask the Washington Nationals if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they finished with the worst record in baseball?

    Do they figure in Sabermetrics in determining who wins the World Series?

    No. It is done by who wins 4 games first in a 7 game World Series.
    When evaluating a player, you look at stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I think baseball people have way too much time on their hands with all these statistics that are meaningless. At the end of the day, wins and losses are the only stats that mean much of anything!
    Sure at the end of the day the only thing that matters is winning and losing.

    And in order to win those games you want to score the most amount of runs, and give up the least.

    And a good way to do that is to put out the best lineup and the best team to fit those needs.

    And the best way to do that is using Sabermetrics.

    So yes the only thing that matters is wins and losses, and the best way to achieve that is using sabermetrics and stats.

    The Phillies had the third best wOBA in the NL last year, the best UZR in the NL. Yeah they dont care about the stats, they just care that those stats showed that they deserved to be where they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    How is it stupid? Do you think it is stupid because I am 100% truthful? Ask the Phillies if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they were winning the World Series last year?

    Ask the Washington Nationals if they cared about all these Sabermetrics stats when they finished with the worst record in baseball?

    Do they figure in Sabermetrics in determining who wins the World Series?

    No. It is done by who wins 4 games first in a 7 game World Series.
    To go along with Poodski's post, do you know how they figure out what players to put on the team to win the world series? They don't use Tarot cards, and they don't draw names from a hat, they use a scouting, financial analysis, and statistical analysis, and Sabermetrics is the name used to refer to the statistical analysis of baseball.


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