Kobe vs. LeBron

**NFLNBA** · 05-20-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by NYMetros

LeBron couldn't lead his team to a win because his teammates didn't play defense. No need to be a homer about it, just accept it. There's a new king in town.

LeBron definitely took over. He was responsible for Cleveland scoring 9 points in the finaly 2 minutes alone. Pretty impressive.

I guess you didnt see that game huh? Lebron got a lot more out of his teamates tonight then what Kobe got from his. Lakers 2nd high scorer of that game was 13 points. Kobe just took over when it mattered yesterday and can hit clutch FT's, Lebron has proven all year they have a hard time against Elite teams and that he isnt a good FT shooter

**philab** · 05-20-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lakergirl24

I know. Lebron cant touch kobe in the clutch.

You know that there are multiple statistics that prove exactly the opposite of that right?

**ManRamForPrez24** · 05-20-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by lakerboy

Well when the game was on the line, Kobe delivered

Anyway, let's not make this a LBJ Kobe thread

LeBron delivered. Delonte missed. Plain and simple. LeBron did everything he could. He made the big shot (3 point play) with 25 seconds left. He got to the hoop, drew a huge crowd, kicked it out to an open man...and unlike Kobe's supporting cast last night...Delonte missed the open shot. I can't believe you honestly are acting like LeBron didn't do everything he possibly could...or act like anyone else could have done better.

**madiaz3** · 05-20-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by theuuord

If Kobe had shot 66% from the field like LeBron in the first place, the Lakers would have won by 25 and there's no need to "take over" at the end anyway.
If LeBron had shot 13-28 tonight the Magic are up by at least a dozen the entire game.

Basketball doesn't work that way. You can't change whether or not some shots went in or not and assume both teams would play the same way.

**Hawkize31** · 05-20-2009, 11:37 PM

Kobe fans wait, wait, wait, and wait til the Magic pull it out then come out of the woodwork to boast because, well, I don't know why. Good job.

Lebron's game 1 > Kobe's game 1. Period. The Magic benefited from really clutch shots, the Lakers benefited from the Nuggets not being able to inbound the ball and Kobe free throws.

I still think Cleveland wins this series. The Magic shot 45% from the 3 point line. If they do that every game they are the best team ever. They won't do that though. The Cavs outside of Lebron as a whole were not good tonight. Varejo was good, Smith was decent, everyone else sucked. That also will not happen every night.

**showtym24** · 05-20-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by MJ-BULLS

a lack of killer instinct by lebron=cavs lose

Yea he's no kobe.

**lakerboy** · 05-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by ManRamForPrez24

LeBron delivered. Delonte missed. Plain and simple. LeBron did everything he could. He made the big shot (3 point play) with 25 seconds left. He got to the hoop, drew a huge crowd, kicked it out to an open man...and unlike Kobe's supporting cast last night...Delonte missed the open shot. I can't believe you honestly are acting like LeBron didn't do everything he possibly could...or act like anyone else could have done better.

LBJ was amazing in this game, especially in the first half. But since I was comparing it to Kobe's performance (not to Kobe as a player) last night, he could have done something more.

He had a great game but he could have done something more in the last few minutes of the fourth quarter. LBJ shouldn't have passed on shots when the game was on the line. He should have taken the shots himself. It kinda reminded me of the Wizards game when he passed the shot the last few seconds.

He also missed like 3 or 4 FTs in the fourth, 2 of which were in the clutch.

**showtym24** · 05-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Lebron was clutch, but lewis was kobe like clutch.

**Angel** · 05-20-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by showtym24

Yea he's no kobe.

That's why the Celtics shut Kobe down last year and couldn't stop Lebron. That's why Stan Van Gundy just said he has no clue what he's going to do against Lebron next game. He said the guy is unbelievable. You can stop Kobe or keep him somewhat in check. You can not stop Lebron and that's why he is the best player in the world.

**soundjunkies2** · 05-20-2009, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Angel

That's why the Celtics shut Kobe down last year and couldn't stop Lebron. That's why Stan Van Gundy just said he has no clue what he's going to do against Lebron next game. He said the guy is unbelievable. You can stop Kobe or keep him somewhat in check. You can not stop Lebron and that's why he is the best player in the world.

Kobe got owned by boston but he did shoot a better % than lebron did against the celtics.

**philab** · 05-20-2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by soundjunkies2

Kobe got owned by boston but he did shoot a better % than lebron did against the cavs.

Yep, because LeBron has played against the Cavs a lot.

What the **** does Kobe have to do with anything here?

And LeBron shot 67% tonight anyway. Go away.

**theuuord** · 05-20-2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by soundjunkies2

Kobe got owned by boston but he did shoot a better % than lebron did against the cavs.

This is true, LeBron has a 0% FG percentage when playing against them.

**NYMetros** · 05-20-2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by lakersrock

Kobe led his team to a win in the last two minutes, LeBron didn't. Cut and dry...plain and simple. Kobe's better and his shooting, free throws and defense proved it. Seriously, LeBron didn't take over in the last two minutes and Kobe did.

Kobe led his team to a win in the last 2 minutes?

Here's what Kobe did in the last 2 minutes last night:
0:36 - Clanked a 22-footer, LA gets ball back.
0:30 - Gets fouled, makes 2 FT's.
0:10 - Gets fouled, makes 2 FT's.
0:05 - Intentially fouled, makes 2 FT's

Here's what LeBron did in the final 2 minutes tonight:
1:39 - LeBron makes 1 of 2 FT's
0:40 - LeBron assists Delonte West for wide-open 3
0:25 - LeBron makes 8 foot jumper and gets fouled, makes FT.
0:04 - Gets in on offensive boards, wins jump ball.

You are telling me that Kobe took the game over any more than LeBron did, when LeBron was responsible for 7 points in the final 2 minutes and Kobe was responsible for 6? Homer alert.

**_KB24_** · 05-20-2009, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkize31

Kobe fans wait, wait, wait, and wait til the Magic pull it out then come out of the woodwork to boast because, well, I don't know why. Good job.

Lebron's game 1 > Kobe's game 1. Period. The Magic benefited from really clutch shots, the Lakers benefited from the Nuggets not being able to inbound the ball and Kobe free throws.

I still think Cleveland wins this series. The Magic shot 45% from the 3 point line. If they do that every game they are the best team ever. They won't do that though. The Cavs outside of Lebron as a whole were not good tonight. Varejo was good, Smith was decent, everyone else sucked. That also will not happen every night.

Ummm No. At the end of the day, a W is what really matters. Lebron choked at the end and could not even get a shot off without dwight in the lane. and he missed key freethrows down the stretch. He was amazing but he was definitely not clutch.

**theuuord** · 05-20-2009, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by _KB24_

Ummm No. At the end of the day, a W is what really matters. Lebron choked at the end and could not even get a shot off without dwight in the lane. and he missed key freethrows down the stretch. He was amazing but he was definitely not clutch.

So every Laker player had a better game than LeBron, since they got a win and he didn't?

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