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    Firms Paid Bill Clinton Millions As They Lobbied Hillary Clinton

    Former President Bill Clinton accepted more than $2.5 million in speaking fees from 13 major corporations and trade associations that lobbied the U.S. State Department while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, an International Business Times investigation has found. The fees were paid directly to the former president, and not directed to his philanthropic foundation.

    Many of the companies that paid Bill Clinton for these speeches -- a roster of global giants that includes Microsoft, Oracle and Dell -- engaged him within the same three-month period in which they were also lobbying the State Department in pursuit of their policy aims, federal disclosure documents show. Several companies received millions of dollars in State Department contracts while Hillary Clinton led the institution.

    The disclosure that President Clinton received personal payments for speeches from the same corporate interests that were actively seeking to secure favorable policies from a federal department overseen by his wife underscores the vexing issue now confronting her presidential aspirations: The Clinton family is at the center of public suspicions over the extent of insider dealing in Washington, emblematic of concerns that corporate interests are able to influence government action by creatively funneling money to people in power.

    “The dynamic is insidious and endemic to this system,” said Meredith McGhee, policy director of the Campaign Legal Center, a campaign finance watchdog group in Washington. "The fact is that the wealthiest .01 percent on the outside of government believes -- fervently -- that by paying speaking fees, or making campaign contributions, that it can gain access and influence."

    Rules Do Not Apply

    Federal ethics rules aim to discourage officials and their spouses from accepting gifts from interests “seeking official action” from a government agency. But the rules do not apply to speaking fees, said Craig Holman an advocate for tightened ethics structures at Public Citizen, a watchdog group in Washington.

    The rules at issue “wouldn’t have any regulations that would make this illegal, unless of course there were a quid pro quo, and that would be a violation of the bribery laws,” Holman told IBTimes. “There isn’t an ethics rule that prohibits someone like Bill Clinton from charging exorbitant speaking fees and collecting those speaking fees from businesses that have interests before the administration.”

    But regardless of the rules, he added, the dynamic through which President Clinton has been able to profit from the same companies eager to gain the ear of his wife’s department “poses a very troubling conflict-of-interest situation that is going to continue to dog Hillary over the course of the campaign."

    Ten of the 13 firms that both lobbied the State Department and paid Bill Clinton speaking fees did so within the very same three-month reporting period. This group includes five technology firms -- Oracle, Dell, Microsoft, SalesForce and VeriSign -- that collectively paid Bill Clinton a total of $1.05 million.

    Federal records show that Microsoft and Oracle were lobbying Clinton’s State Department on, among other issues, immigrant work visas. Oracle was also lobbying in pursuit of legislation dealing with penalties for aiding espionage. Dell was concerned with tariffs imposed by European countries on its computer products. VeriSign was lobbying on cybersecurity and Internet taxation. SalesForce was lobbying on cloud computing, security controls and electronic privacy issues.

    Three of the technology firms that paid Bill Clinton while lobbying Hillary Clinton’s agency also received lucrative State Department contracts. Microsoft received almost $4 million in such contracts after receiving none the year before Clinton joined President Barack Obama's Cabinet. Oracle received $6.5 million in State Department contracts, a large increase from prior years. Dell secured contracts worth more than $28 million, up from just $2.5 million in the year before Clinton became secretary of state.
    Link: http://www.ibtimes.com/firms-paid-bi...linton-1899107

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    Of course they did

    This is standard politics in America
    Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government, owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.-Theodore Roosevelt

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    I would hope for Hillary to have something come out that wrecks her chances, but I don't know that there is another Dem with a strong enough base to beat whoever the Republican nom is.

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    I think if Hillary weren't the nomination whomever the D's put forward would be rallied around and still beat an R at this point.

    The R's seem so far out there and loony at the moment I don't know they could win anything.

    She still ends up getting the nod though imo, people don't care when politicians lie or cheat or bend rules all they care about is "their" side winning.

    She could sacrifice babies on national TV and people would still try and turn it into a positive for her and the party somehow.
    Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government, owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.-Theodore Roosevelt

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    That Clinton "family" is rotten to the core. Anyone who doesn't see that is blinded by ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    That Clinton "family" is rotten to the core. Anyone who doesn't see that is blinded by ignorance.
    Any evidence or are you cool with baseless libel?

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    Is there a single politician who hasn't accepted some form of a bribe? The only American politicians I have any faith in whatsoever is Ron Paul and Elizabeth Warren and even with them I'm sure there's some dirt I'm unaware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Any evidence or are you cool with baseless libel?
    Not sure you understand what libel is, particularly when it comes to politicians, but I won't get into it.

    E-mail scandal

    Benghazi

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_H...ce_controversy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_H...es_controversy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Guaranty

    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/...inton.lincoln/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4

    And of course, all of the Monica Lewinsky garbage.

    The Clinton's don't care, they're the ****ing Clintons and they think they can get away with anything they want to get away with! And yes, every White House has scandals, but how many deeply involve the First Lady? Not many, or they're over trifling things like where she's going on vacation.

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    She not only going to have overcome ( Her firm sucking up money from questionable people) this but the fact her hubby signed the NAFTA treaty and repealead Glass-Seagull act. Her and Bill where first democrat presidential couple to ponying up to Wall Street. She might had been able to skate on her past, if Bernie hadn't throw his hat into the ring. I notice the national media is playing it down that a true progressive-socialist is running. You would think that would had brought some interest besides FOX and they played him as a demon-spawn liberal.
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    This country would be better if it just dismissed all of these hacks.

    The majority of Americans care about increased opportunities in employment, civil liberties, increase wages, protection against evil dictators, less taxes, and a better life for their children.

    My pet peeve is conservation and protection of our natural resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limebalz05 View Post
    This country would be better if it just dismissed all of these hacks.

    The majority of Americans care about increased opportunities in employment, civil liberties, increase wages, protection against evil dictators, less taxes, and a better life for their children.

    My pet peeve is conservation and protection of our natural resources.
    Sounds like Bernie Sanders should get the majority of the votes then, if that's what most people care about.

    What do you mean that's your pet peeve?

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    Bernie is going to bring alot of dinner room table issues to this upcoming cycle. Big business and wall street don't want him to control the national dialogue. Hillary is all ready spewing social issues she never address before. She going to give a Feel your pain speech soon to dilute Bernie's message.

    Right now, I want anybody but Jeb or Hillary, they both mean more the same. It is so bad that I would vote for a Jewish Socialist. Fox will have fun with this leftist, stroke up the fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limebalz05 View Post
    This country would be better if it just dismissed all of these hacks.

    The majority of Americans care about increased opportunities in employment, civil liberties, increase wages, protection against evil dictators, less taxes, and a better life for their children.

    My pet peeve is conservation and protection of our natural resources.
    Yea but they are going to vote for "their hack" and the balanc of power won't shift tremendously. You don't get such universal hatred of Washington as a whole but also such high incumbent relection numbers without that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Bernie is going to bring alot of dinner room table issues to this upcoming cycle. Big business and wall street don't want him to control the national dialogue. Hillary is all ready spewing social issues she never address before. She going to give a Feel your pain speech soon to dilute Bernie's message.

    Right now, I want anybody but Jeb or Hillary, they both mean more the same. It is so bad that I would vote for a Jewish Socialist. Fox will have fun with this leftist, stroke up the fear.
    Why does his religion matter? And are you sure you understand what a democratic socialist is? It's not really that crazy, I bet you and tons of other people agree with a lot of the principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Why does his religion matter? And are you sure you understand what a democratic socialist is? It's not really that crazy, I bet you and tons of other people agree with a lot of the principles.
    Historically, jewish socialist has been a part of every leftist agenda since they immigrated out of Europe during the early 1900's. Back then they were the crazy radicals. They brought socialism to the labor, women, civil right ,anti Vietnam war movements. Hounded during the McCarthey's Red Scare of the fifites. Rev. King, forced by outside forces, had to fire his, jewish communist, logistics aid. These guys are the one the government has effectively shut out of the political system. Untill, Bernie.

    Just another brand of leftyism.

    They are the bogey men of big business because they just keep upcoming up with social agenda that effect profit. If he picks up steam, FOX will have a field day targeting him for his "class warfare sound bite" He will force Hillary to the left to her unease with her wall street background. You think Elizabeth Warren is a liberal, wait until you get a look at Bernie's record. If he catch fire, the big story of the 2016 cycle will be which candidate Elizabeth and Obama will back. Oh Hillary, it always looks so good on paper.
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