What it is - and I agree w/ everyone that I don't think it was intentional on your part - is equivalent to saying, for example, "the republic national convention" instead of "the Republican National Convention". It's mistaken English.
Except in the case of Bush (who used it very often) and many other Republicans, it's a mistake they make deliberately to throw out a cheap, underhanded insult at the Democratic Party.
A single one is called a democrat.
A group is called "democrats"
But "democrat party" for some reason is a slur. I don't get it. But that's how it's interpreted.
Because they are intentionally misspeaking in order to insult. The omission of the -IC from the mother****ing PROPER NAME, the "DemocratIC Party" is deliberate and meant as a jab.
What's so difficult about that to understand? It's totally ****ing obvious! And you obviously understand the difference between a noun and an adjective, so I won't insult your intelligence by trying to explain it to you, but the clue is in your own post ("is called ____")
But if you want more explanations, here you go. Read, and learn:
For all intents and purposes, it's pretty much the same as if those on the left were calling the GOP "the Republifukker Party". It's just a shot, nothing more. And although it's mistaken English, it is NO mistake - it's intentional.
I've done it before...and I didn't mean anything by it.Because they are intentionally misspeaking in order to insult. The omission of the -IC from the mother****ing PROPER NAME, the "DemocratIC Party" is deliberate and meant as a jab.
While it is used as an insult, it can be an honest mistake sometimes.
And saying something like "That was a democratic idea" or "that was a democratic program" sounds a bit odd. "That was a democrat idea" and "That was a democrat program" sounds better to me for some reason. It seems to make sense to separate the party from the system of government in sentences such as those.
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But make no mistake: The reason it's getting easier and easier for people to make this "honest mistake" is that the people who do want the term out there in use have done an effective job of popularizing it through repetition on the airwaves and in other public appearances (see the media matters link above). Watch any Republican speak on C-SPAN or any other channel where they're interviewed. Take note of whether they refer to it as the "democrat" or "Democratic" party. And do the same with Democrats. The pattern is clear: We don't use the former to refer to ourselves, only those on the right do.
Like this, from a year ago:
washingtonwireFebruary 28, 2008, 6:06 pm
McCain References ‘Democrat Party’
Laura Meckler reports from Texas on the presidential race.
John McCain goes out of his way to say he will treat his opponents with respect, but just how much does McCain really respect Democrats?
For decades, Republicans have rubbed Democrats the wrong way by dropping the “ic” from the “Democratic Party.” In their telling, it becomes the “Democrat Party,” along with “Democrat Congress,” “Democrat opponents” and the like.
The political slur got particular attention in 2006 when President Bush used it regularly on the campaign trail for the midterm elections. In his 2007 State of the Union speech, Bush muddied his gracious congratulations to the opposing party by congratulating the new “Democrat majority,” despite the fact that his prepared text called for him to say “Democratic majority.”
Given McCain’s reputation for reaching across the aisle and his daily pledge to treat Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton with respect, Washington Wire was a little surprised to hear McCain using the same language.
“One thing I’m not any good at predicting is the outcome of Democrat elections,” he said Tuesday aboard his bus, dubbed the Straight Talk Express. A day earlier, he had mentioned his “Democrat friends” to a Cleveland-area audience.
Asked aboard his bus about the “ic,” he replied, “I’m sorry, I usually say Democratic. They prefer Democratic, so I try to say Democratic… It offends some members of their party, so I’ll say Democratic if that’s what makes them feel better.”
But his resolve didn’t last long. Later on that same ride, he was talking about his annoyance that Democrats take credit for the improving situation in Iraq. “To say, as Sen. Obama has said, that it’s because of the Democrat majority that we have experienced success in Iraq, that’s just beyond comprehension.”
At times, he does say “Democratic,” but the alternate usage is not unusual. On Wednesday, he preceded another round of Obama criticism with, “I did not watch the Democrat debate last night, but …”
The usage goes way back, but according to the Columbia Guide to Standard English, Republicans are wrong to use the phrase “Democrat Party.” The guide reports that the phrase was used “with particular virulence” by the late senator Wisconsin Republican Joseph R. McCarthy who “sought by repeatedly calling it the Democrat party to deny it any possible benefit of the suggestion that it might also be democratic.”
So when Obama seeks to instill an air of civility in Washington, this is what he's up against: A GOP that stubbornly persists in childish name-calling.
----This is one of the sentences I was talking about....when I edited my last post.“One thing I’m not any good at predicting is the outcome of Democrat elections,” he said Tuesday aboard his bus, dubbed the Straight Talk Express. A day earlier, he had mentioned his “Democrat friends” to a Cleveland-area audience.
If he referred to "Democratic elections" it wouldn't be clear what he was talking about. When he uses Democrat....you know he's talking about the party.
some of you ladies really got your panties in a bunch about the proper use of the word democrat
im sure its purely a coincidence that they try to make this thread into something about people attacking the democratIC party, instead of the topic on hand which is some scummy demo stuff goin on.
And cambo, you are just blind and deaf if you can't pick up on what this is all about.
"Ladies". "Panties". "democrat party." All the same kind of childish insults, so it's no surprise when we hear more of the same. Whatever. Any post that opens with an insult is a post that doesn't merit a genuine answer from me, though.
This could have been handled much better.
With that said, I still don't think the vote would have turned out any different.
Why should they entertain the notion of voting for it? There's absolutely no consequence either way.
And voting no let's you reclaim some of your conservatism. It's kind of hard to claim to be a conservative if you were a "yes man" to a giant Democratic spending bill. (I almost said democrat).
The only thing that I get annoyed by in this whole thing, is the "Be bipartisan!!" stuff directed at the Republicans. It's a two way street, and the democrats didn't let them in on this one. Why should they just take that? "Bipartisanship" to me means working together, not simply voting together.so your "outrage" rings a little bit hollow, even if your complaint is valid.
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