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    Democrat Congress not aboard the transperancy train

    I tried to think of something witty for the thread title, I might have failed oh well!



    Dems are breaking the promise of having the public see the stimulus bill for 48 hours prior to a vote.

    In separate news Pelosi wants a vote today, because she's leaving for Rome at 6pm today.

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    n a press conference Thursday, the House Republican leadership spoke candidly about being kept out of the House-Senate conference on the Obama-Pelosi-Reid so-called “economic stimulus” bill. They confirmed they had not yet seen the text of the bill as of 4 p.m.

    Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he was unsure how many Democrats would vote with Republicans again on this bill but that he thought Republicans “may get a few” Democrats to side with them. The fact that the Demos have now broken their promise to have the public able to see the bill for 48 hours may drive more Dems into the Republican camp.

    “[I] don’t know, ‘cause they haven’t seen the bill either,” Boehner said.


    “The American people have a right to know what’s in this bill,” Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind) told HUMAN EVENTS after the press conference. “Every member of Congress -- Republicans and Democrats -- voted to post this bill on the internet for 48 hours, 48 hours ago. We’ll see if the Democrats keep their word.”

    Actually -- as of 5:15 pm, the Democrats had broken their word. The stimulus bill -- which we still haven’t seen -- will be released late tonight and will be brought up on the House floor at 9 am tomorrow.

    The following statement was released by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer at 4:57 p.m.:

    "The House is scheduled to meet at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow and is expected to proceed directly to consideration of the American Recovery and Reinvestment conference report. The conference report text will be filed this evening, giving members enough time to review the conference report before voting on it tomorrow afternoon."

    Meanwhile, at an earlier presser Thursday, Pelosi -- while talking about legislation regarding school construction funds -- said it was vital to see the language of a bill before making decisions. ReadtheStimulus.org had the following quote:

    “With all of this you have to see the language. You said this --- I said that --- I understood it to be this way --- you know, we wanted to see it in writing and when we did that then we were able to go forward."

    "Around here language means a lot. Words weigh a ton and one person's understanding of a spoken description might vary from another's. We wanted to see it. And not only just I had to see it, I had to show it to my colleagues and my caucus. We wanted to take all the time that was necessary to make sure it was right."

    Congressional members are also exchanging barbs via the popular social network Twitter. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) twittered, "Don't know when we're going to vote. Will the no votes delay vote just because they can? Speed is important. They know that."

    House Republican Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) twittered back, “Those in favor of speed over commonsense may just be afraid of letting the People know what they are ramming through.”

    UPDATE: The Democrats finally made the bill's language available around 11 p.m. Thursday, approximately 10 hours before members meet Friday to consider the bill and 38 hours short of the time promised Americans to review the bill.
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    HAHAH god I hate not having TM status in all places. My spelling sucks, sorry about misspelling Democrat.

    Jesus now I see I misspelled transparency. I swear I graduated college I swear
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    Quote Originally Posted by behindmydesk View Post
    HAHAH god I hate not having TM status in all places. My spelling sucks, sorry about misspelling Democrat.

    Jesus now I see I misspelled transparency. I swear I graduated college I swear
    Well honestly, "Democrat Congress" is a slur... So you achieved that at least. Officially it's "Democratic Congress."

    Denbutsu can get back to you with more on the slur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ari1013 View Post
    Well honestly, "Democrat Congress" is a slur... So you achieved that at least. Officially it's "Democratic Congress."

    Denbutsu can get back to you with more on the slur.
    You're right of course, but it's my bedtime, so I defer to the wiki...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenButsu View Post
    You're right of course, but it's my bedtime, so I defer to the wiki...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
    I don't buy into the slur. I mean it with no ill content. Smooth and den cab ari etc, what are you? You are democrats, If you run for office, you will run as a democrat. You will introduce yourself as the esteemed congressman/woman democrat from (insert home base).

    It's no different then me saying Republican from Indiana. I wouldn't say i'm congressman BMD conservative.
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    BMD, I will accept from you, that you do not intend it as a slur, but, the fact is that it was, is, and always will be the Democratic Party. This is part of the same tactic that has called liberals libs, etc.

    I think you just have to accept the information that it is a slur, even if you do not mean it that way.

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    This is stupid. I want to and other people want to see what the money is getting spent on. Not releasing/posting the details is annoying. Hopefully it will be up soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkize31 View Post
    This is stupid. I want to and other people want to see what the money is getting spent on. Not releasing/posting the details is annoying. Hopefully it will be up soon...
    Finally somone that posted on topic!

    I agree. I don't like they went back on this promise. Not to mention it's now been released. 1,071 pages. No way the people who vote on it can even read it all. This is how pork gets passed. They don't even have time to read it and make an informed decision. I know times are tough adn we need action, but we shouldn't rush to a vote, without at least having the people who vote read it.

    Basically we are asking the rep's to vote without reading it thoroughly, then holding them accountable!
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    I thought you might have been going for something so i didnt change it, but it seems like you made a mistake so i will fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by behindmydesk View Post
    Finally somone that posted on topic!

    I agree. I don't like they went back on this promise. Not to mention it's now been released. 1,071 pages. No way the people who vote on it can even read it all. This is how pork gets passed. They don't even have time to read it and make an informed decision. I know times are tough adn we need action, but we shouldn't rush to a vote, without at least having the people who vote read it.

    Basically we are asking the rep's to vote without reading it thoroughly, then holding them accountable!
    Its a bad day to be an intern for a Congressman.

    "Hey, Mike, read through this and summarize it for me by lunchtime, ok?"

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    I hope it bites them in the butt and it doesn't get passed. No way could you read that many pages and understand everything in 10 hours. It just isn't possible. To then vote on something you haven't read and understand is just crazy. This is why Pelosi-Reid need kicked out. All they care about is their agenda and getting it passed. I want what will fix America. Voting on something they don't know about isn't the way to do it.

    (...and it's not just Pelosi and Reid that need kicked out, but they're the ringleaders.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    I thought you might have been going for something so i didnt change it, but it seems like you made a mistake so i will fix it.
    sweet thanks! The only thing I was going for is showing the world I can't spell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkize31 View Post
    Its a bad day to be an intern for a Congressman.

    "Hey, Mike, read through this and summarize it for me by lunchtime, ok?"
    Ha never thought about that. You are right! God damn that'd suck today
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    Quote Originally Posted by behindmydesk View Post
    sweet thanks! The only thing I was going for is showing the world I can't spell!
    I just assumed you had a heart attack trying to post something related to democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by behindmydesk View Post
    I don't buy into the slur. I mean it with no ill content. Smooth and den cab ari etc, what are you? You are democrats, If you run for office, you will run as a democrat. You will introduce yourself as the esteemed congressman/woman democrat from (insert home base).

    It's no different then me saying Republican from Indiana. I wouldn't say i'm congressman BMD conservative.
    But BMD, you'd call it a Republican Congress, right? The reason that Republicans don't like saying Democratic Congress is because that sounds like a good thing. Who wouldn't want a Congress that acts democratically. But by saying Democrat Congress they're trying to insinuate political control as a bad thing.
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