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    ^ You've got a point there about privileges. It's vital that there be a separation in terms of health and education between the rich and the poor. Maintain that division and protect all that is good and right.

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    I am so grateful this is now law so it is no longer a debate topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    Why should one group (the poor) recieve any more help from the government than anyone else?
    Because first of all, they need it. And secondly, a lot of other, richer people get a lot more help from the government than the poor do.
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    health is not a privilege... it's part of that whole "LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" thingamajig...

    EVERYONE deserves to be healthy in america... especially defenseless kids!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    My parents pay for my health insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    Health care and education are not rights, they are privelages. I think if parents were forced to start paying for public schooling we would see more involvement by the parents, and an overall better performance by problem students, or removal of problem students which would improve the group as a whole. Right now a lot of these parents have nothing invested in their children's education, they rent, and don't pay property taxes.
    what do you think your property taxes, and state taxes are for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    Health care and education are not rights, they are privelages. I think if parents were forced to start paying for public schooling we would see more involvement by the parents, and an overall better performance by problem students, or removal of problem students which would improve the group as a whole. Right now a lot of these parents have nothing invested in their children's education, they rent, and don't pay property taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    Health care and education are not rights, they are privelages. I think if parents were forced to start paying for public schooling we would see more involvement by the parents, and an overall better performance by problem students, or removal of problem students which would improve the group as a whole. Right now a lot of these parents have nothing invested in their children's education, they rent, and don't pay property taxes.
    That's a sad, sad statement.

    Life is an inalienable right in this country. Without good health, we have no life.

    And you seriously don't believe that people shouldn't have a right to an education? I can understand that Glenn Beck might rather have a group of brainless zombies listen to him, but you've gotta know better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ari1013 View Post
    That's a sad, sad statement.

    Life is an inalienable right in this country. Without good health, we have no life.

    And you seriously don't believe that people shouldn't have a right to an education? I can understand that Glenn Beck might rather have a group of brainless zombies listen to him, but you've gotta know better than that.
    So you think we should close abortion clinics right? That interferes with someone's right to a life. How about that fertility clinic that allowed that lady to have 8 embryos implanted in her? What kind of life will those 8 plus the 6 she already has have? Don't give me the liberal ******** about how we need to give everyone a chance at life, when you support places that take lives, and create freaks that will have terrible lives. Health care is not a right, it's a service that you pay for, much like a TV. Education is also a service that should be paid for, not given to you for free. Alot of people rent and pay no property taxes, shouldering the burden of the education system on home owners who may not even have children.
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    you just compared health care to paying for cable

    your logic fails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersin08 View Post
    So you think we should close abortion clinics right? That interferes with someone's right to a life. How about that fertility clinic that allowed that lady to have 8 embryos implanted in her? What kind of life will those 8 plus the 6 she already has have? Don't give me the liberal ******** about how we need to give everyone a chance at life, when you support places that take lives, and create freaks that will have terrible lives. Health care is not a right, it's a service that you pay for, much like a TV. Education is also a service that should be paid for, not given to you for free. Alot of people rent and pay no property taxes, shouldering the burden of the education system on home owners who may not even have children.
    If you really want to get technical -- as it's clear you do -- abortions occur pre-life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe View Post
    you just compared health care to paying for cable

    your logic fails
    That's what happens when you get home schooled. Because obviously, since education shouldn't be provided, he definitely must not have gone to school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ari1013 View Post
    If you really want to get technical -- as it's clear you do -- abortions occur pre-life.
    Cue in the abortion debate. Where does life being!


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    Quote Originally Posted by behindmydesk View Post
    Cue in the abortion debate. Where does life being!
    It's the fallback option for any Talk Radio listener. Once their leader has been shown to be incompetent, they'll drag out their social values and say that anyone who disagrees is giving them "liberal ********."
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