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View Poll Results: Should Kurt Warner make the HOF?

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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMarauder View Post
    Young has 7 Pro Bowls to Warner's 3, although he'll probably get a 4th this year. Young has 2 league MVP's and has likewise won 1 Super Bowl and an SB MVP. Young's record as a starter is 94-49, 91-33 if you discount his tenure with those horrible Bucs team. Warner's record is 48-37.

    Young has about 7000 more yards than him passing plus over 4200 yards rushing and 43 rushing TD's and his passer rating is above Warner's.
    Young deserves to be in the HOF...so does Warner. Check his stats vs other top QB's.

    MULTIPLE NFL MVPS*
    Jim Brown (3)
    Johnny Unitas (3)
    Brett Favre (3)
    Joe Montana (2)
    Steve Young (2)
    Kurt Warner (2)
    Peyton Manning (2)

    (*AP voting, which started in 1957)

    ALL-TIME PASSER RATING
    96.8 — Steve Young
    94.2 — Kurt Warner
    94.1 — Peyton Manning
    92.9 — Tom Brady
    92.3 — Joe Montana

    MOST CAREER 300-YARD GAMES
    63 — Dan Marino
    55 — Brett Favre
    51 — Dan Fouts
    49 — Warren Moon
    45 — Kurt Warner
    44 — Peyton Manning

    MOST CONSECUTIVE SEASONS LEADING LEAGUE IN PASSING YARDS
    5 – Sid Luckman
    4 – Steve Young
    3 – Kurt Warner, Bart Starr

    MOST PASSING YARDS IN A SEASON
    5,084 – Dan Marino, 1984
    4,830 – Kurt Warner, 2001
    4,806 – Tom Brady, 2007

    Not bad, right? One of those lists gets better upon closer inspection. Kurt Warner has reached 300 yards 45 times in just 101 games. That means he’s done it 44.6 percent of the time.

    So let’s reorder the list of 300-yard passers based on the rate of games played.

    300-YARD GAMES BY PERCENTAGE
    44.6 – Kurt Warner (45 times in 101 games)
    28.2 – Dan Fouts (51 times in 181 games)
    26.2 – Peyton Manning (44 times in 168 games)
    26.0 – Dan Marino (63 times in 242 games)
    23.6 – Warren Moon (49 times in 208 games)
    20.8 – Brett Favre (55 times in 265 games)

    Winning, of course, might be the No. 1 qualification for a quarterback to earn enshrinement in the Hall of Fame. Overall, Warner is 53-39 during the regular season as a starter. He is 5-2 in the postseason.

    Warner really boosted his case by winning a Super Bowl MVP trophy in 1999.

    Of the 16 other quarterbacks to be selected as the Super Bowl MVP, 11 are in the Hall of Fame or will be: Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

    Four Super Bowl MVPs did not make it in: Jim Plunkett, Phil Simms, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien.

    One is too early to tell: Eli Manning.

    Warner, at age 37, is in his 11th NFL season. He might not have many more seasons left to pad his numbers. But, for kicks, I looked up the career numbers for every Hall of Fame quarterback at profootballreference.com.

    These are just the basic quarterbacks stat – touchdowns, interceptions, yards – to get a feel for where Warner stacks up. I listed the passers in reverse order of their year of enshrinement, since it’s more relevant to see how Warner compares to modern-era players than, say, Otto Graham and Bob Waterfield.

    HALL-OF-FAME QUARTERBACKS
    (And how Kurt Warner stacks up)

    QUARTERBACK / TDS / INT / YDS
    Kurt Warner / 168 / 106 / 26,439
    Troy Aikman / 165 / 141 / 32,942
    Warren Moon / 291 / 233 / 49,325
    Dan Marino / 420 / 252 / 61,361
    Steve Young / 232 / 107 / 33,124
    John Elway / 300 / 226 / 51,475
    Jim Kelly / 237 / 175 / 35,467
    Joe Montana / 273 / 139 / 40,551
    Dan Fouts / 254 / 242 / 43,040
    Bob Griese / 192 / 172 / 25,092
    Terry Bradshaw / 212 / 210 / 27,989
    Len Dawson / 239 / 183 / 28,711
    Fran Tarkenton / 342 / 266 / 47,003
    Joe Namath / 173 / 220 / 27,663
    Roger Staubach / 153 / 109 / 22,700
    Sonny Jurgensen / 255 / 189 / 32,224
    George Blanda / 236 / 277 / 26,920
    Johnny Unitas / 290 / 253 / 40,239
    Y.A. Tittle / 242 / 248 / 33,070
    Norm Van Brocklin / 173 / 178 / 23,611
    Bobby Layne / 196 / 243 / 26,768
    Otto Graham / 174 / 135 / 23,584
    Sid Luckman / 137 / 132 / 14,686
    Bob Waterfield / 97 / 128 / 11,849
    Sammy Baugh / 187 / 203 / 21,886
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    42 Super Bowls...NFC East has 19 SB appearances and 11 wins.

    SB Appearances
    Dallas = 8 (5 wins)
    Washington = 5 (3 wins)
    New York = 4 (3 wins)
    Philly = 2 (0 wins)

    NFC East SB Appearances 45.2%
    NFC East SB Wins 26.2%

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    He had/has a bunch of stats in a pass happy offense, but the fact that he was little more than a journeyman QB during the middle of his career, for about 5 years, I would say does not make him a HOF player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMarauder View Post
    He had/has a bunch of stats in a pass happy offense, but the fact that he was little more than a journeyman QB during the middle of his career, for about 5 years, I would say does not make him a HOF player.
    I disagree.
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    42 Super Bowls...NFC East has 19 SB appearances and 11 wins.

    SB Appearances
    Dallas = 8 (5 wins)
    Washington = 5 (3 wins)
    New York = 4 (3 wins)
    Philly = 2 (0 wins)

    NFC East SB Appearances 45.2%
    NFC East SB Wins 26.2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboysforlife View Post
    Wow....that was weird. I started out posting in the NFL forum and then somehow ended up in here in the HOF forum... Got to lay off the Scotch.
    Well i moved it and merged it with the original thread so it wasnt you. I asked Wrigley to create this forum a few years ago for this kind of stuff.
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    I think we will have to look at his full body of work when he is done playing

    He has done some impressive things as a qb in this league and arena as well

    I think once it is all said and done he will be closer to getting in to the HOF than he wouldn't

    He is doing a hell of a job for Arizona right now
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    if he has a couple more seasons like the one hes having now, then he would have to be considered especially if he was to win the MVP this season and another superbowl down the road

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    I think that he def. should be a HOF. almost 50% of all his games were 300 yards passing or more. No one else has even come close to that. I dont know about all of you but I think that is amazing.

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    Is Kurt Warner H.O.F. worthy?

    All the stats aside I say yes, he has accomplished so much for someone with such an obscure backround. I understand its not a great comparision, but if Sayers made it into the H.O.F., Warner also belongs to be there.


    Thoughts? Does he deserve a nod, or no?

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    He was HOF before yesterday...so yes

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    Yes Yes Yes

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    He has been for a while
    Leave me alone

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    yes no doubt

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    He wont be a first ballot but he will make it fir sure

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    not only is he fame worthy but if we win in 2 weeks he is arguable the best qb ever, two superbowl championships with two different teams that is unprecedented, not to mention 2 fastest player to 20,000 yds.....2 or 3 in career qb rating.....2 time MVP {should be 3 but analysts are haters}......superbowl MVP {maybe two time after feb}.....

    To all those eagles fans that kept bashing us, saying it would be so easy, well sorry! Thats what you get for your arrogance


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    I'd think so. He has some amazing stats

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