I'm sorry if I've come in and made you cry in your coffee. Guess a differing voice on these boards is something you're uncomfortable with, and something you obviously have no idea what to do with, because I've given you ample opportunity to have the open & honest discussion of the issues that the hardcore left always claims it wants, but it's 100% clear to me that you're not after any kind of discussion at all.
All you want is a place where you can sound off your propaganda without any kind of response at all. Pretty funny to me how fast some people crumble around here when pushed beyond the hollow shell of demagougery & repetitive bumper sticker talking points.
For the record, even though this has nothing to with the thread's topic, I'm actually very open to listening to your opinions regarding Palin, as predictable as they likely would be. Just be prepared to have them challenged is all, just like I challenged your views regarding Gitmo.
Yeah I hear ya there. But, this huge inauguration hoopla does follows his campaign style. It follows the look of the Democratic Convention, etc, and Obama's entitled to whatever people want to give him. But as they like to say around Hollywood, which is very close to where I live, fame is fleeting. Reality's going to come and all these millions of people who've invested their hopes in Obama are going to watch exactly what happens with that investment. While it's true if bad things happen, the Dems will do everything they can to blame anyone & everyone but themselves, as is their way, that won't keep all those millions in line. Obama has a lot of pressure on him, from all sides. It'll be interesting to see what happens.Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
I'm reminded of that song "Popular" from Wicked right now...
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But please don't lose any sleep over me crying in my coffee. This week, I am doing the happy dance.
Really? That's rather amazing. I mean, I'm glad to see you're not escalating, but still, wow.Originally Posted by denbutsu
*chuckles* A discussion like that in this forum? Really? I know I haven't really posted since before the election, but I know how this forum has been in the past. I'm quite familiar with its history. The day this forum goes without any disrespect, insults, & condesention will be a cold, cold day.Originally Posted by denbutsu
Now if everyone here can agree to something like that and actually abide by it, I'd go along with it. But that day hasn't come yet, and like I said before, I know this forum's history and reputation. I know how to play the game here.
from a country where black people were slaves >
to a country where black people, for all practical purposes, could not vote in a massive region >
to a country that elects a black person president
"Historical magnitude" would apply whether it was Obama or not... although I do believe that Obama's inauguration in particular is endowed with significance because he took on the issue of race head on early in the campaign (race speech after the Wright controversy broke out), and because he was elected in large part due to his message of unity and reconciliation (starting with the 2004 convention speech, and continuing through to today).
"Historical significance" = this particular inauguration will be the most prominent in our kids' and grandkids' history books since Kennedy's, and probably for a long time hereafter. It is a milestone in American history.
The country is in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, which isn't stopping rich donors and the government from spending $170 million, or more, on the inauguration of Barack Obama .
IMAGE: Inauguration price tag
Employees at banks, brokerages and Wall Street firms donated $7 million Barack Obama's inauguration.
(ABC News Photo Illustration)
The actual swearing-in ceremony will cost $1.24 million, according to Carole Florman, spokeswoman for the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies.
It's the security, parties and countless Porta-a-Potty rentals that really run up the bill.
The federal government estimates that it will spend roughly $49 million on the inaugural weekend. Washington, D.C., Virginia and Maryland have requested another $75 million from the federal government to help pay for their share of police, fire and medical services.
And then there is the party bill.
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"We have a budget of roughly $45 million, maybe a little bit more," said Linda Douglas, spokeswoman for the inaugural committee.
That's more than the $42.3 million in private funds spent by President Bush's committee in 2005 or the $33 million spent for Bill Clinton's first inaugural in 1993.
Douglas said that this will be the "most open and accessible inauguration in history," with members of the general public able to participate on a greater scale than ever before.
"The money is going toward providing events which we hope are going to connect people, make them feel like we are all in this together and reinforce the notion that when we pull together, we're stronger," Douglas said. "And we need to pull together to face the challenges that are before us today."
Among the expenses: a Bruce Springsteen concert, the parade, large-screen TV rentals for all-free viewing on the national Mall, $700,000 to the Smithsonian Institution to stay open and, of course, the balls, including three that are being pitched as free or low cost for the public.
But there are plenty of rich donors willing to pick up the tab.
"They are not the $20 and $50 donors who helped propel Obama through Election Day," said Massie Ritsch, communications director for the Center for Responsive Politics. "These are people giving mostly $50,000 apiece. They tend to be corporate executives, celebrities, the elite of the elite."
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Magic # 14
Ta-Nehisi CoatesFrom the annals of post-racialism
19 Jan 2009 10:00 am
Last night at The Root ball, me and Kenyatta are cutting the rug, during the old school set. Biz Markie is on the wheels. And somewhere between the "All Night Long" and "Got To Give It Up" I peep Christopher Hitchens, mid-groove, with some dime-piece on his hip. Philosopher of all things, William Jelani Cobb, who was dancing with his date a few paces away, offered the observation of the week, and the week had just begun...
Postracial, indeed.The prospect of Christopher Hitchens getting down to Biz Markie, is only slightly less improbable than the prospect of a black president.