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    Stat Question

    Stat Guys,

    Is there any stat that measures the 'quality' of the hit?

    For example, I know that the end result of a line drive single and a squib single off the end of the bat is the same, but in reality, it doesn't measure the quality of that hitters contact.

    Or, another example, a guy lines out a bullet to third or another guy pops up to the pitcher. Same result but obviously one was better contact.

    Does anything measure that sort of stuff?

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    You can check a players batted ball rates. It tracks line drives, fly balls, infield pop-ups, and ground balls.

    The player who hit that line drive would have it counted to his LD% while the other player who hit the pop up would have it added to his IFFB%.

    Players with high LD% are making better contact than players with high IFFB%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoYankee View Post
    Stat Guys,

    Is there any stat that measures the 'quality' of the hit?

    For example, I know that the end result of a line drive single and a squib single off the end of the bat is the same, but in reality, it doesn't measure the quality of that hitters contact.

    Or, another example, a guy lines out a bullet to third or another guy pops up to the pitcher. Same result but obviously one was better contact.

    Does anything measure that sort of stuff?

    Thx,

    Leo
    The easiest is/are line drive, ground ball, fly ball and infield fly designations at FanGraphs.

    There's also a thing known as "hard hit ball data" but I'm not sure where it's available. I've tried, and am trying now, to find it.
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    @msimonespn

    Has tweeted a lot of charts and graphs using hard hit ball data
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    The easiest is/are line drive, ground ball, fly ball and infield fly designations at FanGraphs.
    For example, for the 2014 Yankees
    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=4,d

    Jacoby Ellsbury has the highest line drive percentage (29%). That's well about the league average of about 20%
    He also has a very good BABIP of .339. This makes sense since he's hitting a lot of line drives.

    Derek Jeter is hitting 61% of hits on the ground. It's hard to hit for power when you're not getting the ball in the air.

    Carlos Beltran has the most infield flies (18%). This helps explain his low BABIP as is hard to get hits when you're popping up 1 out of every 5 balls you make contact with.


    The data is also available for pitchers
    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=6,d
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoYankee View Post
    Stat Guys,

    Is there any stat that measures the 'quality' of the hit?

    For example, I know that the end result of a line drive single and a squib single off the end of the bat is the same, but in reality, it doesn't measure the quality of that hitters contact.

    Or, another example, a guy lines out a bullet to third or another guy pops up to the pitcher. Same result but obviously one was better contact.

    Does anything measure that sort of stuff?

    Thx,

    Leo
    Some teams use a, 'bat impressions scanner'. They pass a digital wand up and down the bat and it measures the depth of the impressions in the wood. That calculates into a stat called the, 'I.D.S" (Impressions Depth Score)

    The deeper the impressions, the harder the ball has been hit. An I.D.S. of 70% or more means the player is hitting the ball often and hard.
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    I think the eye test is the best way to judge how a batter hits a particular ball....<g>
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    The easiest is/are line drive, ground ball, fly ball and infield fly designations at FanGraphs.

    There's also a thing known as "hard hit ball data" but I'm not sure where it's available. I've tried, and am trying now, to find it.
    I am leading the world in hard hit balls after this week but not in a good way, in the way that it is my balls being hit.

    This is cool stuff guys. It makes it easier to understand stats when they are in small doses.

    Great question Leo!
    I still think that CCIS is the best stat there is. But the ones referred to may be easier to use.

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    There's a stat called wHAV that @msimonespn uses.

    http://waswatching.com/2013/07/29/wh...-so-down-with/

    http://waswatching.com/wp-content/up...13/07/WHAV.jpg

    It measures the percentage of ABs that end up in hard hit ball for various players. The obvious correlation being that the players with the highest % of hard hit balls also tend to have the better offensive stats.
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    Thank you everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoYankee View Post
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