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  • Mike Jacobs

    5 29.41%
  • Adam LaRoche

    12 70.59%
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  1. #1
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    Mike Jacobs or Adam LaRoche

    Pretty bored so I guess I'll make this thread. Both are 1B, around the same age, both bat left-handed, have very similar OPS+.

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  2. #2
    LaRoche.

    Jacobs' D makes him among the worst first basemen in all of MLB.
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    Actually they are both pretty bad on defense.

    Laroche rate 2 this year is 91 and career is 99.

    Jacobs rate 2 this year is 95 an career is 96.


    On offense

    Jacobs OPS+ this year is 108 and career is 110.

    LaRoche OPS+ this year is 109 and career is 111.


    ...so they both are pretty ****** starting 1st baseman.

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    laroche


    METS, KNICKS

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Actually they are both pretty bad on defense.

    Laroche rate 2 this year is 91 and career is 99.

    Jacobs rate 2 this year is 95 an career is 96.


    On offense

    Jacobs OPS+ this year is 108 and career is 110.

    LaRoche OPS+ this year is 109 and career is 111.


    ...so they both are pretty ****** starting 1st baseman.
    The Davenport Fielding Translations are pretty well-known for being bad at evaluating first basemen and right fielders but are decently reliable at other positions.

    Jacobs last year was an astounding -38, and LaRoche was a +18 according to UZR. Jacobs was listed at a -10.7 and LaRoche was a -3.3 heading in to the All Star Break according to Chris Dial, but I don't know where either player stands right now.

    In 2006 and 2007, Jacobs' WAR was negative. He was a -0.94 in 2006 and a -1.80 in 2007. LaRoche was 3.17 in 2006 and 2.97 in 2007.

    Jacobs is pretty ******, but LaRoche holds his own IMO.
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  7. #7
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    Jacobs is much more productive..Give me Mike, as bad as he is defensively..


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    Quote Originally Posted by C1Bman88 View Post
    LaRoche.

    Jacobs' D makes him among the worst first basemen in all of MLB.
    27 homers and 76 RBI. Yes, he's one of the worst first basemen in the MLB.

    He is not phenomenal by any stretch of the imagination, but to call him "one of the worst first baseman in the MLB" is ridiculous.


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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by m26555 View Post
    27 homers and 76 RBI. Yes, he's one of the worst first basemen in the MLB.

    He is not phenomenal by any stretch of the imagination, but to call him "one of the worst first baseman in the MLB" is ridiculous.
    The numbers say otherwise.

    HR alone don't tell you how good or bad a player is. When your OBP is .290 and your career OBP is .316, you're not a particularly productive player, especially when your weighted OBA is below league average. Also include the platoon splits (he's .234/.276/.408 against LHP and .268/.327/.521 against RHP) and the terrible, terrible defense and you've got yourself a pretty bad player.

    By the way- RBI is not a stat that's indicative of a player's abilities.
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    Jacobs is just awful

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    Jacobs will hit you a good amount of HRs a year, but his on base numbers are ugly, as is his defense.




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    I'll take Mike Jacobs. He knocks in runs. I would definitely not really want any of them on my team, although.

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    I'd take Jacobs, but really don't want him anymore man

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