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View Poll Results: As an Obama supporter, do you believe in socialism?

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  • Yes, socialism should gradually replace capitalism in our society

    1 5.00%
  • No, I believe capitalism is still best for our country

    6 30.00%
  • I am not an Obama supporter, but I support a conversion to socialism

    0 0%
  • I am not an Obama supporter, and I believe capitalism is best

    13 65.00%
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    Obama Supporters: Is Socialism The Answer?

    Barak Obama is widely considered the most liberal senator in congress. He believes in high taxes, wealth redistribution, socialized heathcare, and is generally a socialist. It is not uncommon today to hear young people say that they support socialism and it is not surprising to me to see all the young voters flock to Obama. The promise that the government will take care of all your problems is enticing to many people.

    Obama supporters, please vote in my poll and let us know if you do in fact support socialism, which your candidate clearly does. If you are not an Obama supporter, please vote for one of the second set of options. Thanks.
    Last edited by CubsGirl; 07-11-2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Poll was written for Obama supporters only, rewrote poll so everyone could vote



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    I'm not voting in this poll because there are assumptions in the question that are not true. Obama does not support higher taxes, is far from a socialist, and is not the most liberal senator, especially widely viewed. Just because a magazine rated him as such does not make it true. Take a look for yourself and stop digesting far right talking points.

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    I changed this poll around so people who don't support Obama can voice their opinion as well.

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    Yeah, Obama does support higher taxes. He's a Democrat after all. You can say that it's taxing for noble reasons and say it's a necessary evil, but he'll raise taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blenderboy5 View Post
    Yeah, Obama does support higher taxes. He's a Democrat after all. You can say that it's taxing for noble reasons and say it's a necessary evil, but he'll raise taxes.
    he'll raise taxes for a small portion of the population and lower them for a majority. We've already covered the facts on this:

    http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes


    but to say he's a democrat and therefore will raise taxes is just a talking point

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    I am really tired of this republican knee-jerk reaction to tax increase. Everything is increasing in cost.
    1. Want your roads and bridges maintain, it's going to cost more
    2. Education to remain affordable to everyone, it's going to cost more.
    3. same with police protection
    4. Same as maintaining quality water supplies.
    Republican and their backers would wheter this country's services, it's infrastructure, the well-being of it's citizens be shot to hell, then raises taxes. Do the republicans wish we have the problems that China and Russia have, like poor water systems, quality medical care for the few, education for a select few and crumbling roads just so they can beat their chest in pride, that they didn't raise taxes?
    These are things that are important to american, let the Republicans choose to ignore them. They don't even want to insure the quality of our food supplies, by fully expanding the FDA's ablitiy to do it's job or country of origin stickers on food. Never have I seem so many food alerts in so short of time. What is worst is they can't track it down. If you want safe food that is going to cost more.
    Last edited by WES445; 07-11-2008 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    I am really tired of this republican knee-jerk reaction to tax increase. Everything is increasing in cost.
    1. Want your roads and bridges maintain, it's going to cost more
    2. Education to remain affordable to everyone, it's going to cost more.
    3. same with police protection
    4. Same as maintaining quality water supplies.
    Republican and their backers would wheter this country's services, it's infrastructure, the well-being of it's citizens be shot to hell, then raises taxes. Do the republicans wish we have the problems that China and Russia have, like poor water systems, quality medical care for the few, education for a select few and crumbling roads just so they can beat their chest in pride, that they didn't raise taxes.
    These are things that are important to american, let the Republicans choose to ignore them. They don't even want to insure the quality of our food supplies, by fully expanding the FDA's ablitiy to do it's job or country of origin stickers on food. Never have I seem so many food alerts in so short of time. What is worst is they can't track it down. If you want safe food that is going to cost more.

    Well stated.

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    You must work for Fox News. This poll is so skewed and biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearAD View Post
    You must work for Fox News. This poll is so skewed and biased.
    To be fair, I added the second two poll options to try and make it so that everyone could vote in the poll, since beforehand he only wanted to hear from Obama supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubsGirl View Post
    To be fair, I added the second two poll options to try and make it so that everyone could vote in the poll, since beforehand he only wanted to hear from Obama supporters.
    I would have voted if there was a choice that read "capitalist basis and ideals with intelligent, reasonable regulation"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHX-SOXFAN View Post
    I would have voted if there was a choice that read "capitalist basis and ideals with intelligent, reasonable regulation"
    amen.

    Obama is not even close to the most liberal Senator in congress. And abstract concept like liberalism can be bent and twisted around any bill (or omitted) to make any congresspersons voting record like like anything you want. That as opposed to a concrete concept like voting with The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (Obama 80% McCain 20%) or the Disabled American Veterans (Obama "B" McCain "D"). You also neglect to mention that that was only for the year 2007, and in 2005 and 2006 he ranked 16th and 10th respectively. Furthermore, you include no specifics on the bills being voted on. Ron Paul would have the most "liberal voting record" in the house if all the votes were about Iraq... To pigeon hole Obama just because there were no bills on the things he looks at more conservatively is preposterous. P.S. McCain did not even vote enough to receive a score in this study.

    We all know that Barack is going to lower taxes more than McCain for anyone making less than a quarter of a million dollars anually, so I don't know why thats an issue either.

    So allow me to re-write your original post.

    Barak Obama is widely considered the most liberal senator in congress by people who believe everything Fox news tells them. He believes in high taxes for the extremely wealthy, and lower for the other 95% of Americans, not indebting our country further to China, universally available heathcare, and is generally a Democrat. It is not uncommon today to hear young people say that they support socialism and it is not surprising to anyone to see all the young voters flock to Obama, because unlike McCain, Charlie Black, and Phil Gramm, Barack understands the struggles of young people and students, doesn't need a terror attack in the U.S. to win, and actually recognizes that we have serious economic problems in this country. The promise that the government will not contribute to your problems, and will help you when reasonable to do so, is enticing to most intelligent people.

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    I'd like to cast my vote for people talking about socialism actually understanding what socialism is before making polls about socialism.
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    Well. I'm a fascist. So I'm exempt from this poll.

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    Yeah but we waste so much money on stupid **** that we don't have to raise taxes, just regulate what congress spends more.

    For instance, we could eliminate the National Endowement for the Arts. Or earmarks. It would be cool if we could eliminate the line item veto but it's sorta unconstitutional.
    "Compromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line -- and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHX-SOXFAN View Post
    I'm not voting in this poll because there are assumptions in the question that are not true. Obama does not support higher taxes, is far from a socialist, and is not the most liberal senator, especially widely viewed. Just because a magazine rated him as such does not make it true. Take a look for yourself and stop digesting far right talking points.
    Try not to be so conclusory, please provide facts to support you contention.

    Your rant smells of "Chivas Regal" ... oops, I mean Ted Kennedy east coast liberalism, so typical, personally attack the person with a divergent perspective, while frothing at the mouth about unsupported nonsense.

    Mr. Obama has said that he plans to do away with tax cuts for people in the upper tax bracket, increase his "welfare to work" social programs, and provide middle class tax cuts as part of his economic stimulus packet.

    Those policies remind me of a story I read when I was a child. Its was called Robin Hood and the moral of that story was ...

    ... steal from the rich and give to the poor.

    Oh, by chance, are you a union member?

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