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    NFL and CFL merge?

    can you see it happening or no?

    tell me the pros and cons

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    Never.

    The talent in the CFL is nowhere near close to the talent in the NFL.

    The NFL should try to get an expansion team in Canada though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PEOPLE View Post
    Never.

    The talent in the CFL is nowhere near close to the talent in the NFL.

    The NFL should try to get an expansion team in Canada though...
    well the cfl can also pick up nfl players to ans so on
    just 1 team?

    im thinking toronto and bc and edmonton
    those 3 is where the games are alwayz sold out
    so thats a start

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    Quote Originally Posted by da phins View Post
    well the cfl can also pick up nfl players to ans so on
    just 1 team?

    im thinking toronto and bc and edmonton
    those 3 is where the games are alwayz sold out
    so thats a start
    uh what about saskatchewan we usually sell out though i dont see the nfl putting a franchise here. it would probably go in toronto where all expansion teams go.

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    Here's a way to do it

    So a few of us got together a while ago thinking about this and actually came up with a way to do it. Far from perfect but I'd argue that it couldn't be accomplished in some form. Unfortunately it would mean compromise on all fronts, something that thick headed dyed in the wool blockhead football fans on both sides of the border usually aren't capable of.

    Feel free to shoot it down, but try to be intelligent and sober when you do it.

    Changes to allow for hybrid game:

    Field of play:
    Hybrid of the two leagues; overall length to be NFL size at 360 feet, width to be changed to 180 feet, or half of the length.
    Hash marks 65 feet from each sideline
    Goal posts placed and sized to NFL standards behind the end zones.
    Stadiums to have a minimum seating capacity of 45,000 within two years of merger. This would require seating expansion in Calgary, Saskatchewan (Regina), and Winnipeg with the relocation of the Montreal Alouettes to Olympic Stadium. Reduced size of playing field should provide for inward expansion necessary. NFL to fund construction costs.

    Scoring and general rules:
    Eleven players per side. Numbering system to follow NFL guidelines for all new players, with existing players being able to continue the use of current numbers until retirement, even after changing teams due to player transactions.
    Single foot in-bounds for legal forward pass reception.
    Four offensive downs to move 10 yards or score.
    CFL style motion allowed for all offensive plays from scrimmage.
    Touchdown worth six points with one or two point convert attempt from two yard line. Point after rules as per regular play except that a defending player may return a blocked, fumbled or intercepted ball to the opposite goal line for a two point score, as per CFL rules.
    Field goal worth three points.
    No point for missed field goal or punt through the end zone.
    Touchback worth two points.
    Eliminate drop kick as legal play.
    No yards format for punting receptions as per CFL rules.
    Kick off as per NFL rules.
    Video replay as per current NFL system, subject to review every three years.

    Time keeping:
    Adopt CFL methods including 20 second play clock and clock stopping after every play during final two minutes of play in each half.
    Overtime to CFL version where each team gets a series of offensive plays from the 30 yard line until the score is uneven. In other words, team A scores a field goal but team B scores a touchdown or fails to score on a loss of downs.
    Maximum television time outs to be two minutes

    Team alignment:
    CFL teams to join AFC
    Indianapolis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh to return to NFC as they were pre-AFL/NFL merger.
    Hamilton Tigercats to relocate to Los Angeles and move to NFC. Renaming of team at discretion of ownership. Having an established franchise history may be marketing advantage.
    BC Lions to be re-named through means to be determined by team ownership. Recommend Cougars due to appropriateness of colors and logo.
    All team colors/livery and logos to remain unchanged unless desired by the teams themselves. Recommend Edmonton Eskimos alter helmet color to dark green to avoid confusion with Green Bay Packers or change colors to align with Edmonton Oilers NHL team to aid in recognition and marketing.

    Divisions as follows:

    - NFC
    West: Seattle, San Francisco, St. Louis, Arizona, Los Angeles
    Northeast: New York Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Tampa Bay, Dallas
    Central: Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Indianapolis
    Southeast: Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina

    - AFC
    West: Vancouver, Oakland, San Diego, Calgary, Edmonton
    Northeast: New England, New York Jets, Toronto, Buffalo, Montreal
    Central: Saskatchewan, Winnipeg, Denver, Kansas City, Houston, Southeast: Baltimore, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Miami, Jacksonville

    Schedule:
    Eighteen game regular season games with two pre-season games.
    Training Camps to commence no earlier than June 15.
    Schedule commences August Long weekend with Friday night Hall of fame game; Sunday, pre-merger NFL teams; Monday, former CFL teams followed by Monday night game featuring established NFL teams TBD.
    Canadian divisional rivals to play on Labor Day and re-match on Canadian Thanksgiving Monday including possible Monday night game.
    Each team plays divisional opponents home and away. Remaining regular season match-ups to be determined based on geography, historical matches etc. with each team playing every other team at least once every five years.
    Playoff teams to be determined as follows: Divisional champions ranked one to four in each conference with four wildcard teams ranked five to eight. Conference quarter- finals take place with one playing eight, two playing seven, three playing six and four playing five. Each conference to play two games on Saturday and two games on Sunday. Winning teams progress to semi-final one game each on Saturday and Sunday. Conference championship games to be played on following Sunday with indoor games to be played at night and outdoor during the day due to time of year. Superbowl Sunday to follow the college bowl season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvtrains View Post
    So a few of us got together a while ago thinking about this and actually came up with a way to do it. Far from perfect but I'd argue that it couldn't be accomplished in some form. Unfortunately it would mean compromise on all fronts, something that thick headed dyed in the wool blockhead football fans on both sides of the border usually aren't capable of.

    Feel free to shoot it down, but try to be intelligent and sober when you do it.

    Changes to allow for hybrid game:

    Field of play:
    Hybrid of the two leagues; overall length to be NFL size at 360 feet, width to be changed to 180 feet, or half of the length.
    Hash marks 65 feet from each sideline
    Goal posts placed and sized to NFL standards behind the end zones.
    Stadiums to have a minimum seating capacity of 45,000 within two years of merger. This would require seating expansion in Calgary, Saskatchewan (Regina), and Winnipeg with the relocation of the Montreal Alouettes to Olympic Stadium. Reduced size of playing field should provide for inward expansion necessary. NFL to fund construction costs.

    Scoring and general rules:
    Eleven players per side. Numbering system to follow NFL guidelines for all new players, with existing players being able to continue the use of current numbers until retirement, even after changing teams due to player transactions.
    Single foot in-bounds for legal forward pass reception.
    Four offensive downs to move 10 yards or score.
    CFL style motion allowed for all offensive plays from scrimmage.
    Touchdown worth six points with one or two point convert attempt from two yard line. Point after rules as per regular play except that a defending player may return a blocked, fumbled or intercepted ball to the opposite goal line for a two point score, as per CFL rules.
    Field goal worth three points.
    No point for missed field goal or punt through the end zone.
    Touchback worth two points.
    Eliminate drop kick as legal play.
    No yards format for punting receptions as per CFL rules.
    Kick off as per NFL rules.
    Video replay as per current NFL system, subject to review every three years.

    Time keeping:
    Adopt CFL methods including 20 second play clock and clock stopping after every play during final two minutes of play in each half.
    Overtime to CFL version where each team gets a series of offensive plays from the 30 yard line until the score is uneven. In other words, team A scores a field goal but team B scores a touchdown or fails to score on a loss of downs.
    Maximum television time outs to be two minutes

    Team alignment:
    CFL teams to join AFC
    Indianapolis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh to return to NFC as they were pre-AFL/NFL merger.
    Hamilton Tigercats to relocate to Los Angeles and move to NFC. Renaming of team at discretion of ownership. Having an established franchise history may be marketing advantage.
    BC Lions to be re-named through means to be determined by team ownership. Recommend Cougars due to appropriateness of colors and logo.
    All team colors/livery and logos to remain unchanged unless desired by the teams themselves. Recommend Edmonton Eskimos alter helmet color to dark green to avoid confusion with Green Bay Packers or change colors to align with Edmonton Oilers NHL team to aid in recognition and marketing.

    Divisions as follows:

    - NFC
    West: Seattle, San Francisco, St. Louis, Arizona, Los Angeles
    Northeast: New York Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Tampa Bay, Dallas
    Central: Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Indianapolis
    Southeast: Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina

    - AFC
    West: Vancouver, Oakland, San Diego, Calgary, Edmonton
    Northeast: New England, New York Jets, Toronto, Buffalo, Montreal
    Central: Saskatchewan, Winnipeg, Denver, Kansas City, Houston, Southeast: Baltimore, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Miami, Jacksonville

    Schedule:
    Eighteen game regular season games with two pre-season games.
    Training Camps to commence no earlier than June 15.
    Schedule commences August Long weekend with Friday night Hall of fame game; Sunday, pre-merger NFL teams; Monday, former CFL teams followed by Monday night game featuring established NFL teams TBD.
    Canadian divisional rivals to play on Labor Day and re-match on Canadian Thanksgiving Monday including possible Monday night game.
    Each team plays divisional opponents home and away. Remaining regular season match-ups to be determined based on geography, historical matches etc. with each team playing every other team at least once every five years.
    Playoff teams to be determined as follows: Divisional champions ranked one to four in each conference with four wildcard teams ranked five to eight. Conference quarter- finals take place with one playing eight, two playing seven, three playing six and four playing five. Each conference to play two games on Saturday and two games on Sunday. Winning teams progress to semi-final one game each on Saturday and Sunday. Conference championship games to be played on following Sunday with indoor games to be played at night and outdoor during the day due to time of year. Superbowl Sunday to follow the college bowl season.


    wow quite a bit of work

    pretty solid 1st post

    come post more often

    could use a bit of work, but overall pretty good
    Last edited by da phins; 01-25-2009 at 07:04 PM.

    New sig needed!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by da phins View Post
    well the cfl can also pick up nfl players to ans so on
    just 1 team?

    im thinking toronto and bc and edmonton
    those 3 is where the games are alwayz sold out
    so thats a start
    British Columbia and Edmonton over Montreal? I think it's Toronto first and Montreal second. Just look at all the sold out Canadiens games there are.

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    Well, you got to start with one.

    Beats playing season home games in London doesn't it?

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    which team would you start with?

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    I don't know, you're the Canadian, you tell me.

    Saskatchewan, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PEOPLE View Post
    I don't know, you're the Canadian, you tell me.

    Saskatchewan, definitely.
    well im biased.
    bc (british columbia)

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    Don't want or need an NFL team in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bramaca View Post
    Don't want or need an NFL team in Canada.
    oh really?
    why?
    because cfl will break down then?
    yeah i think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by da phins View Post
    oh really?
    why?
    because cfl will break down then?
    yeah i think so
    First, I don't really care about the NFL. A lot of Canadians think the same way which is why CFL games draw double the viewers of NFL games in Canada.

    Also if the NFL did come to Canada and the CFL folded there would be a huge drop in interest in football. Canadian players in a pro league from their hometown creates role models for kids to look up to and emulate. Why do you think Canada keeps producing so many hockey players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bramaca View Post
    First, I don't really care about the NFL. A lot of Canadians think the same way which is why CFL games draw double the viewers of NFL games in Canada.

    Also if the NFL did come to Canada and the CFL folded there would be a huge drop in interest in football. Canadian players in a pro league from their hometown creates role models for kids to look up to and emulate. Why do you think Canada keeps producing so many hockey players.
    yeah that is true.
    but football isnt to big in canada.
    hockey is clearly way bigger.
    if they merged then maybe football can have a bigger image for canadians.

    and cfl has different rules

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