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  1. ESPN Ranks Lebron Top 5, Ahead of Duncan, Shaq and Bird.

    As others have said, I wouldn't put him over Duncan/shaq (yet).
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    I have to think they can't be planning to pair...

    I have to think they can't be planning to pair Vucevic with Monroe...
  3. 3 of those are simply your perception (for...

    3 of those are simply your perception (for example with all that heart/passion/desire why would Kobe not show up as big in elimination games throughout his career?), Kobe is more skilled, and IQ is...
  4. While I too think he focuses too much on the...

    While I too think he focuses too much on the stats he has brought way more to the table than those arguing with him. It's easier to just count rings than to look into the stats/impact, teammates, and...
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    I agree, I also currently have them over Lebron...

    I agree, I also currently have them over Lebron as well.
  6. Not sure if you have been reading the thread or...

    Not sure if you have been reading the thread or not but ring count has been the biggest thing brought up. In no way do they try and separate the individual from a team accomplishment so in fact...
  7. Jason Terry had like a 20 PER (at least), I...

    Jason Terry had like a 20 PER (at least), I remember looking that up before in a disscussion (his lift in play generally gets overlooked for that run imo).

    EDIT: Based on his later post it appears...
  8. Kobe averaged like 22 ppg and 4.7 apg in the 4...

    Kobe averaged like 22 ppg and 4.7 apg in the 4 finals next to Shaq on 41% shooting (and this is with arguably the most dominant force we have seen taking the defensive attention). If you start using...
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    He's so young and I don't want to just decide who...

    He's so young and I don't want to just decide who he is as a player with such limited time watching but I see him as a backup pg too if I had to guess now.
  10. Yes, they ended up winning so their title is...

    Yes, they ended up winning so their title is legit (just like 06 Heat for example). Context like this (which imo would be weak) and so much more is why judging players off rings is ridiculous though....
  11. I agree longevity and success are important but...

    I agree longevity and success are important but my point is that the rest of your list most certainly doesn't follow the same criteria you just listed (even within only the top 10 you show). You list...
  12. Sticky: Poll: So because you don't think something will happen...

    I highly doubt anyone would take Denver giving up 7 after seeing what Carolina did to Arizona and their top defense. Even i wouldn't do this as it is considered a losing bet from the get go. I...
  13. Sticky: Poll: You can take different lines at a higher payout,...

    That makes no sense since Denver was never favorite at any sport books which mean you got Punk'd by somebody :laugh2:[/QUOTE]

    You can take different lines at a higher payout, pretty sure that's...
  14. Sticky: Poll: SUPER BOWL 50: Carolina Panthers vs. Denver Broncos

    Turnovers always get looked at anyways
  15. I mean do you want exactly that criteria or...

    I mean do you want exactly that criteria or something close to it? If it's exactly you could start saying that with every player and their years as top x player with so many mvps, rings, FMVP's, or...
  16. ESPN Ranks Kobe 12, Behind Oscar, Lebron, Hakeem, Shaq & Duncan

    I'd take Hakeem too but personally I have kobe over Oscar, Russell (limited watching him so no expert but I have him 11), and arguably bird as well due to longevity.
  17. Ya I think this is about the lowest I'd not have...

    Ya I think this is about the lowest I'd not have issues with but personally I have him 9 or 10 so a little higher than this list.

    I also think they missed some in the middle teens and their order...
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    I could see that in the end but I think they...

    I could see that in the end but I think they would/should be a team to at least consider for him. I don't know if a trade is likely for that reason, even if they decided they were open to moving him...
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    What would you give for Melo?

    Would Boston be an option? Lots of picks and some young peices, good team with good coach, potentially could use melo to try and lure another player..:

    I dunno if that is really a great plan for...
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    Ok I see what you meant but I think it is too...

    Ok I see what you meant but I think it is too extreme. He can develop plenty as a backup pg and with Sam Mitchell coaching the tanking won't be an issue (he's currently the reason we haven't seen...
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    Barkley and Malone have 0 rings and are higher on...

    Barkley and Malone have 0 rings and are higher on this list, I don't know what makes you believe his ring is pumping up his rating. Beyond that I think that if you get one true chance on a...
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    Kg is one of the worst examples you could have...

    This. I certainly agree. There are arguments for the other guys but I view Stockton a lot more highly than most. I think Stockton gets pushed aside by younger fans because he was just a short white...
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    ESPN's All-Time Top 100 Players

    I would have had both Utah guys go before kg and Robinson, they are a bit high
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    I'm not nearly as high on tyus as you seem to be....

    Thats why getting Tyus in there asap is going to be huge. At the same time, I think the T wolves know this cause Tyus gets no PT. I hope they are trying to get Rubio's value up so they can deal...
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    MN Timberwolves

    Ya I don't think we will trade Rubio just because his value to us is bigger than what we would get back in a trade most likely. I'm not completely sold on him as pg of the future necessarily but I...
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