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If either Cam or Mallet are there for the taking at 15, you have to draft them. Period. The draft is such a crap shoot anyhow and even more so when it comes down to QB's and RB's. If I am a coach...

Now thats funny :laugh:

I don't think I'm putting anyone in front of Seaver. He is for certain top 3 in my eyes. WJ is so long ago, it's hard for me to compare and like you said its hard to see where history will place...

Bags and Old Sweater this made for some good reading. I think some of the Old Timers could have made it in todays game, but they certainly wouldn't be throwing those amount of innings. If anyone...

I am almost there, not quiet. He is one of the ones I wish I had seen in person. Clemens attributes Seaver's time in Boston as the factor that turned him from a thrower into a pitcher. I always...

Moyer would have stood a better chance had he retired a couple years ago. He would have been going up against Bonds and all the PED players, heck they gotta vote someone end.

As much as I have always disliked the Yankees, I always thought that players looked sharp in pinstripes. That was of course before Tex and CC put them on. Tex is the biggest looking dork in...

He had the most WS rings and DiMaggio was 2nd. Tom Yawkey told the Yanks it would take both of them to get Ted Williams.

It is a shame that Bonds juiced. It made his arrogance 10 times worse as well. When people call him a 5 tool player, the first image that comes to mind is him not throwing slow as heck Sid Bream...

Maybe he was saying Bonds was like Evan, without steroids. Possibly Evan was selling steroids?? :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I will say Walter Johnson just because I do not want to pick Clemens. My heart won't let me put RC first because of the roids, throwing the bat Piazzi, and mainly because he asked to come out of a...

This x12

Another thing that I have not seen mentioned in the discussion about the quality of pitchers faced during each era, is the quantity of pitchers faced. There were only 16 teams in baseball during...

I did not mean to suggest I thought he should coach. Yeah, to far removed from the game for that.

I like the idea of bringing in Mike Shula. With Mike around, Don stops in once in awhile and gives friendly advice. Don starts visiting, maybe Marino is around a little bit more. Maybe Marino sees...

Their is nothing wrong with this list. Mays over Mantle? Thats a tough one but I think I go with Mays as well. I might move Junior up to 4th. I wish he had learned the value of conditioning at...

You are right to correct me as I did mean the Soviet Union. As far as that goes I guess it should have been United States as well.

Longevity is part of greatness. If not, then you just take the greatest year at each position. That is why Walter Payton is better than Gayle Sayers. The Romans greater than the Mongols. Elvis...

I was reading all these lists in one night and some of the other positions had more than 15, I just realized they were supposed to be limited to 15. Agreed with where Parrish should be placed. He...

I have not gotten into the SABR stuff, but since reading these forums I think I might have to delve into them a little more.

Thanks for the info.

How does pitching have anything to do with how good of a right fielder he was? If it were another OF position he played, then I could understand. Should Frank Robison get credit for games won as a...

Hammering Hank
Ruth
Robbison
Al Kaline
Clemente
Ott
Rose
Reggie J
Tony Gwynn
Dave Winfield - at least his May stats

I did not realize that Carew played that many games at 2B. I always think of him a 1B. Between him and Ted Williams as to had the best "eye" ever. I remember an ump saying one time that when the...

Lol, all of this has been good reading. So by not counting anything by games played other than shortstop, we can all agree that the greatest shortstop of all time is Bucky Dent.