You forgot to mention the 1970's
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You forgot to mention the 1970's
There's definitely still players using, and let's face it, players will forever continue to use them.
Fans should just accept it, and move on.
Look at Bagwell's case.
Don't be so sure.
Bagwell didn't get in, in his first two years.
Obviously suspicion is enough for some writers to vote no.
I realize that there is absolutely no evidence that Piazza or Bagwell juiced, however many people suspect them for whatever reason.
Mays wins because of league quality, not to mention he lost nearly two years serving his country.
Those stats don't take into account playing time.
Pre 1999 Barry Bonds>Albert Pujols
As a hitter, and as an overall player.
Bond had back to back 200 OPS+ seasons (204 and 206), while Pujols career high is 191.
Say what you will about...
I'm curious to hear the argument that Walker/Votto> Arod as hitters.
I'm not even sure if Votto should rank ahead of Cabrera.
Which can either be beneficial or hurtful to Griffey's WAR. Guess we'll never know.
Just curious as to why.
War from Fangraphs paints a different picture than baseballreference. WAR from Fangraphs has Griffey's best season beating Trout's.
Either that, or players aren't abusing them like they did back then because it would be too obvious now.
Kevin Brown was on the mitchell report, and never denied the allegations. He definitely was using steroids.
Still an underrated pitcher though.
I could agree, though the AL during Mantle's career had very questionable competition as well due to the fact that it was slower to integrate compared to the NL.
And again, you claim Griffey's 1996 is his best season because WAR supports it. There are other metrics that actually disagree with that. And no, I'm not wrong, because I posted in a few posts...
I could agree there, though I believe his 2000 season was better in terms of all-around play, and strictly offensively his best season was probably 2007.
Which isn't a fair comparison for post integration players, who in my humble opinion, played against significantly stronger competition. I will concede that statistically, Griffey is the 6th best CF...
It's funny how nobody cares about rampant steroid use in Football, but when baseball players use them, it's the end of the world.
Any players who's rookie season was their best season?
I also want to add that the stat "WARP" certainly doesn't support the notion that Trout's 2012 is better than anything Griffey ever did. Granted, I don't particularly trust that statistic either,...
Well, this will certainly please the anti steroid crowd.
Not debtable in the least eh? Apparently everyone should run their opinions through you first, because you have all the answers. The link to your opinionated post proves nothing. The fact that...
Actually, it is.
No, I'm not. The entire argument for Trout's 2012 season "undoubtedly" being better than anything Griffey ever did is based on WAR. In fact, it's no surprise that you...
Because WAR isn't the be all end all. In fact, it's a pretty flawed stat, all things considered, especially when it comes to defense.
The fact that he may be overrated doesn't mean Mike Trout's 2012 is better than any season he ever had. I'd also argue that it's certainly debatable that he's "only" the 6th best CF of all-time...