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    If you're going defensive (or two-way)...

    If you're going defensive (or two-way) defenseman, a guy like Carlsson will likely be there at our second first. He's one of my dark horse picks -- supremely talented, tremendous skater and terrific...
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    I really think you can get another first without...

    I really think you can get another first without giving up the Schenn Bros or the TBL pick.

    Streit + Laughton + 3rd could likely get you DAL's pick at 12. It fills both of DAL's needs (PMD that...
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    I don't think that's entirely fair -- (1) The...

    I don't think that's entirely fair --

    (1) The Coburn Trade at the deadline was relatively bold. Trading arguably our best shut down defenseman for a first rounder.

    (2) The Timonen Trade -- I...
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    I'm not talking about the entire trade -- this...

    I'm not talking about the entire trade -- this was not Kane + Bogosian for Myers. If that were the case, then yes, we don't have the assets to make that move.

    The trade was Kane + Bogosian for...
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    We did have the Schenn Brothers -- I'd trade...

    We did have the Schenn Brothers -- I'd trade those two for Myers. Salaries work, the deal is roughly the same (might have some slight additions to make it all fair and workable).

    I still love the...
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    Sure. Hanifan could be the next Niedermayer. But...

    Sure. Hanifan could be the next Niedermayer. But Provorov could be the next Bourque. It's a defense prospect -- there is a ton of volatility. You just don't know and not one of the top-3 defense...
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    No, he didn't. The trade was (if I remember...

    No, he didn't.

    The trade was (if I remember correctly):

    To WIN:
    Myers
    Brendan Lemieux (1st round pick 2014)
    Drew Stafford
    2015 First (NYI)
    Some prospect
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    I'm not against trading Schenn for a decent...

    I'm not against trading Schenn for a decent return, either...but I don't see that coming any time soon. I also think he has quite a bit of unrealized potential -- there are flashes when he's just a...
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    So, now that we've planned all of this out...

    So, now that we've planned all of this out perfectly, all Hextall needs to do is read our forum, give a damn and execute. Good news.

    That being said, Marner + Zacha would be absolutely ridiculous....
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    Absolutely. As for the others.... MacDonald:...

    Absolutely. As for the others....

    MacDonald: I'd give him away.
    Grossmann: I'd be thrilled with a third and fifth rounder
    Schultz: Mid/late round pick

    MDZ: Keep
    Schenn: Keep
    Gudas:...
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    I love Mark Streit, but I think we need to make...

    I love Mark Streit, but I think we need to make an honest, no-BS assessment of where we think this franchise will be next season. Personally, even with a very good draft, I think we are a fringe...
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    The only problem I have with that is our "top"...

    The only problem I have with that is our "top" line -- Raffl - Giroux - Marner -- is relatively undersized, especially if they are going against top-pairing defensemen. They have tons of skill and...
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    I'd throw DAL CHI 2nd, Conditional Pick and...

    I'd throw DAL CHI 2nd, Conditional Pick and Streit for #12 overall if it meant a shot at Zacha. He's going to be a legitimate star-power player in the league...

    That more or less completes our...
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    I think we all agree that Crouse is not the ideal...

    I think we all agree that Crouse is not the ideal pick at #7 -- maybe at #22, but not at #7.

    Here's a weird scenario, though:

    What if the draft goes something like this:

    EDM -- McDavid
    BUF...
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    I think it depends on your perspective of the...

    I think it depends on your perspective of the expected value/talent delta between the current pick and the TBL pick...if the team thinks there is a massive drop-off in talent, the price will go up....
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    We aren't that far off in our guesses. Cousins is...

    We aren't that far off in our guesses. Cousins is a mid-tier prospect...throw in a third and a conditional pick, plus the TBL pick and I think you have a framework for a deal depending on the team.
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    We better decide quickly...I'm a big Brayden...

    We better decide quickly...I'm a big Brayden Schenn fan. I think he still has quite a bit of untapped potential and could be a very good top-6 winger. If he continues to improve and develop (he's...
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    Yeah. That's why I was on the "get Myers"...

    Yeah. That's why I was on the "get Myers" bandwagon (alone) for two years. You all thought I was crazy...
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    2015 Draft Thread

    If you are asking what it would take to acquire, straight up, a mid-round first in this draft without giving up our TBL first, it's probably:

    2015 2nd (CHI)
    2015 3rd
    2016 2nd (PHI)
    Cousins...
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    I tend to agree with this...I don't hate the...

    I tend to agree with this...I don't hate the Rinaldo extension too badly, but the Schultz one before we re-signed MDZ was a bit of a head-scratcher.

    As for the off-season, Hextall just needs to...
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    I really don't think we have a problem either...

    I really don't think we have a problem either way. Marner is well suited to play wing and could be an instant infusion of offensive creativity on our second line (or develop in the AHL for a year). ...
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    Wear your JVR jersey, hold a picture of the 74...

    Wear your JVR jersey, hold a picture of the 74 Cup and watch game 6 off the Blackhawks series as a reminder to the hockey gods of the price we've already paid
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    In 2013-14, we had 7 20-goal scorers. The only...

    In 2013-14, we had 7 20-goal scorers. The only change has been the loss of Hartnell, which does hurt. But it also doesn't include Couturier or Raffl.

    I don't think Umberger is a 20 goal guy...
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    Well, we've accomplished step #1 of the...

    Well, we've accomplished step #1 of the off-season plan. Now, we actually need to replace Berube with someone more competent (not that it should be difficult).

    From there, it's shedding bad...
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    [/B] I'm sure he's waiting to see what happens...

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    I'm sure he's waiting to see what happens with Babcock (and what other coaches get fired), as well as get a final sign-off from Snider before he axes Chief. I agree 100% -- he needs to go.
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