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    so what you just said in so many words: moss...

    so what you just said in so many words: moss needs a great team around him to produce and would be useless without it due to his one dimensional attributes. Meanwhile rice made his team great by the...
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    randy was bigger but physically weaker. jerry was...

    randy was bigger but physically weaker. jerry was the better blocker, he could break more tackles, he was a better route runner, he had better field vision to maximize yards after catch, he could go...
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    this is patently false. the tampa cover 2 was...

    this is patently false. the tampa cover 2 was designed to stop the wco which was popularized by flash 80 himself. Cover 2 was created to limit yac which is how jerry made wco as popular and...
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    didnt realize this was the thread people were...

    didnt realize this was the thread people were talking about it.

    just my thoughts i posted in another thread.

    Give me rice in his prime any day. He was more of a multi threat than moss which...
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    Give me rice in his prime any day. He was more a...

    Give me rice in his prime any day. He was more a multi threat than moss which allowed ocs to be more innovative with him. Guy could go over the middle unlike moss and excelled at getting yards after...
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    Peyton manning and its not even close.

    Peyton manning and its not even close.
  7. elite front four, this was already proven when...

    elite front four, this was already proven when the giants upset the pats in 2007 playing with terrible corners like corey webster. Its all about pressure.
  8. I saw Montana and I saw manning. Peyton manning...

    I saw Montana and I saw manning. Peyton manning is the best I've ever seen. I know people, would disagree and would be surprised since im a 49er fan but that's my opinion. I can acknowledge greatness...
  9. Lol :facepalm:

    Lol :facepalm:
  10. My god you can't read. I said Larry's agility and...

    My god you can't read. I said Larry's agility and acceleration doesn't compare to jerry rices. It's better than most recievers but its not even close to rices.
  11. Wait what? H was not a man to man reciever? What...

    Wait what? H was not a man to man reciever? What are you even talking about? Slants, curls, outs all those routes he ran were against press coverage. He was going up man to man just in a different...
  12. Jerry beat any coverage no matter what scheme...

    Jerry beat any coverage no matter what scheme defense played against him, double team, triple teams didn't matter- quote by John gruden

    Yes he was consistently open. How much? I can't say because...
  13. Heis not a better athlete than fitz, he is only...

    Heis not a better athlete than fitz, he is only better at certain attributes which coincide with the prime traits of a reciever. Sorry but that's how important acceleration and agility are to the...
  14. Oh and you've watched all the games he played in?...

    Oh and you've watched all the games he played in? This is either a flat out lie or you must be brain dead since you didn't know he played against Deion sanders, Darrell green, Aeneas Williams, or...
  15. I didn't say all he does is catch deep balls....

    I didn't say all he does is catch deep balls. That's not my problem if you have reading comprehension issues. I said catching deep balls is not an attribute that defines if a wr is more talented than...
  16. Have been jokes? I give breakdowns, you give one...

    Have been jokes? I give breakdowns, you give one liner responses ok:facepalm:

    Ya it's not like moss played with a hof qb and still took him 4 more games with the modern passing rules just to break...
  17. Nobody cares how fast you are. Its about how fast...

    Nobody cares how fast you are. Its about how fast you are coming out of your breaks. And Larry didn't have he acceleration or agility jerry did. Sorry but that's just a fact.

    Well yes considering...
  18. You think you know jerry but never saw him play...

    You think you know jerry but never saw him play lol. No wonder you made that ridiculous comment about 90s players and cornerbacks.


    Nevermind this debate is a joke then, you are a fan of the...
  19. And acceleration and agility are better...

    And acceleration and agility are better indicators of a wideout than long speed. Which rice has the clear adv in, blocking clear adv in. Strength clear adv in. Sorry but he beats fitz out in all the...
  20. Because HE played in the wco. Not the wco of...

    Because HE played in the wco. Not the wco of today, the true wco where 90 percent of the plays were short passes.

    He was not a designed middle route reciever, he run what the coaches told him to...
  21. Just gave you the whole breakdown but you don't...

    Just gave you the whole breakdown but you don't want to admit it. You going to put up a debate with facts or just be in denial?
  22. Deion sanders, Darrel Green, rod Woodson, Charles...

    Deion sanders, Darrel Green, rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, Aeneas Williams.


    All better corners than fitz faced. And possibly the greatest corner of all time.


    You want to see a body type...
  23. I said fitz had the long distance speed, but...

    I said fitz had the long distance speed, but acceleration and agility goes to rice in a very clear way.

    You've never watched rice play. He was a far better blocker than fitz, dude blocked a...
  24. That's because rice was better at running the...

    That's because rice was better at running the whole route tree since the 49ers ran a pure wco while fitz was running a glorified spread offense with Todd Haley. Sure you can throw it up to fitz and...
  25. "Players today are way more athletic and bigger" ...

    "Players today are way more athletic and bigger"

    Except we are comparing th 90s to the 2000s not the eighties or the seventies so you would be dead wrong. CBs were much bigger in the nineties...
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