G.O.A.T : Ray lewis or Lawrence Taylor? Hm

Ray Lewis is awesome and all, LT ***** on him.

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Originally Posted by j11430

When judging players at different positions I look at how dominant they were compared to their competition. Ray Lewis is arguably the best ILB of all time while LT is pretty widely regarded as the best outside linebacker ever.

So by that, I'd take LT. But if you had to choose, there's really no way to justify it using real fact. Both are amazing players

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Ever hear of a guy named Dick Butkus? I personally cant pick between them.

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan05

As others stated its hard to compare because one plays offense while the other plays defense but if I had to choose I would pick Ladainian Tomlinson. Ray Lewis never won MVP and Tomlinson has thrown 7 more career touchdowns

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I hope this was a joke...

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddyburch

Ever hear of a guy named Dick Butkus? I personally cant pick between them.

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That's why I said arguably. There really aren't any guys that you can say are even close to being as good as LT though

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Originally Posted by j11430

That's why I said arguably. There really aren't any guys that you can say are even close to being as good as LT though

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No LT was in a league all by himself. Derrick Thomas was the closes thing and he really was not that close.

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddyburch

No LT was in a league all by himself. Derrick Thomas was the closes thing and he really was not that close.

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Exactly, there aren't any guys that are pure pass rushing linebackers that were/are as dominant as LT. Personally I think Demarcus Ware is the closest and even he isn't even close. LT was just absolutely unstoppable for so long, I doubt we ever see a guy like him again

The Giants with LT played a 4-3 didn't they?

Again Imagine Lewis in the 80s/90s? His size/Strength and ability while not being hindered by the crap offensive rules....Oh yea he is also the PManning of defenses on a logical level.

I'll take option C.

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddyburch

No LT was in a league all by himself. Derrick Thomas was the closes thing and he really was not that close.

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Andre Tippett and Pat Swilling were in the Thomas class too.

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Originally Posted by j11430

the giants with lt played a 4-3 didn't they?

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Best of all time ? At what ?

Are we talking Homicide ? Statutory rape ? Or drug use ?

You could make a case (no pun intended) for both players.

What's the criteria for greatest?

LT was more dominant at his position, but Lewis does more to elevate the whole team.

This is almost the AP vs Manning debate. AP is in his own class as far as RBs go right now, but Manning does more to elevate his team. Rambo vs Patton.

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Originally Posted by kubernetes

LT was more dominant at his position, but Lewis does more to elevate the whole team.
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That sentence indicates you never saw Taylor play or heard his rants which elevated the whole team.

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Originally Posted by NYSPORTS98

Andre Tippett and Pat Swilling were in the Thomas class too.

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They were great just not sure I would rank them as high as Thomas. Then again I saw him twice a year and he and Neil Smith had a thing for Elway. Thomas also holds the single game sack record.