I know, I had to go check ESPN after reading that post.
i wouldnt b mad if we got Bourne. but not for a huge contract
Jurrjens for Renteria, bad.
4yr extension for Guillen, worse.
Other than those two moves...I cannot remember many that I thought, "Oooo, yuck!!!" when DD made them. While I don't always LOVE every deal, and who does, Dombrowski has done a fantastic job.
You all could still be stuck with Randy Smith! 12/11/2000: Traded Brad Ausmus, Doug Brocail, and Nelson Cruz to the Astros for Roger Cedeno, Chris Holt and Mitch Meluskey.
Don't get me wrong, DD is doing a fantastic job...just saying that he has had a couple of doozies which are allowed.
kokes, we don't disagree often, but on this one we will.
When they signed him he was only 30, had plenty of range and one of the better hitting SS. Figuring(at the time) that Inge was going to be OK, made Guillen getting older at SS easier since Inge had unreal range. He did have injury history but that's a risk a GM takes. He put up some good numbers considering how much he was getting paid, just bad timing he started getting hurt when the higher salaries kicked in.
I liked Guillen...as a matter of fact I think I posted before to you that he was forgiven, in my eyes anyway, when he hit the HR off of that punk-@$$ Weaver. I took my wife and two boys to that game, Wow! What a game! Weaver vs. Verlander...I will never forget it...thanks to Guillen.
The first deal was 2004 and Guillen was 28 and the Tigers traded Juan Gonzalez and Ramon Santiago for Guillen...they avoided arbitration and signed him to a 3yr $14M extension. That took him to age 32. Until age 30 Guillen had only played in more that 134 games twice in his career; first at age 25 (his first full season he played 140 games), and second time at age 28 (his first season with Detroit he played 136 games). His second season with the Tigers, at age 29, he was only able to play 87 games. In 4 full seasons with Seattle before coming to Detroit he AVERAGED 118 games a season...the dude was brittle from moment go in the Big Leagues...Seattle knew it, WE knew it.
I think the worst part about it was the fact that DD did the 4yr/$48M extension IN MARCH OF 2007 while Guillen was under the last year of his contract making $5M.
IF you look at the offseason moves from 2007-08 you will understand why I feel it was an awful move. I am not trying to pick on you or your favorite player, it was just NOT one of DD's better moments as a GM.
PS. Kokes, if you want to pick on me...Gibby is/and was my favorite Tiger...not exactly a defensive stalwart or an offensive juggernaut...but I love his intensity all the same!
I know he was hurt a lot but I still love him. The years he was able to stay healthy or somewhat healthy, damn I loved going to those games. Watching him warm-up was awesome, arm was sweet.