You would think he would educate himself on the subject. We have been having this go around since he joined this site.
If he would just stop for a sec he would realize they are basically the same people that split off following different religions way back when.......basically when all the trouble started.
That may just be too difficult for him to comprehend I guess.
yall still haven't answered my question...do yall support China's historical claim to the disputed islands in the Pacific? or is it different cause we're talking about China, not Israel? and since it's China, history doesn't matter?
This thread shows a clear reason why there are two distinct sides in this war. No one can communicate and listen to what the other is saying.
My larger point, however, is that the only solution to the conflict is for both sides to acknowledge each other's legitimate historical claims to the area and live accordingly. When people acknowledge one group's history in the area but not the other's, we move only towards more war where lives will be lost needlessly on both sides.
as an israeli-american, i am not blind to the abhorrent treatment by the israeli gov toward arab settlers. it's a stain on the nation.
that said, it does not erase the fact that:
1. jews were long-settled and living in the territory now known as israel for ages before arab settlers, then also living with them simultaneously
2. arab nations and governments have chosen to leave their so-called brothers "on the street" rather than take them in
3. arab nations have unilaterally denounced statehood attempts
4. arab nations have helped fund terrorist groups
5. these terrorist groups have fired upon a sovereign nation, then when israel retaliates, they have strategically placed their rockets and operatives in areas with high civilian and children populations.
if you think those things are on par with the settlement issues on israel's side, i'd say we have some very different values regarding what is bad and what is absolutely deplorable.
Palestine is a large place and I don't fault the Arab's that call themselves Palestinian for not having a home or state. I blame their leadership for being kicked around the region.
They belong there just as the Jews do, as both groups have been for thousands of years prior to lines in the sand and the arabs being kicked out of basically everyplace else they have tried settling in.
i do not think israel has sole rights to israel. but i don't blame israel for taking extreme measures to protect itself in a region surrounded by people who have gone out of their way to destroy her and her people. i also don't think it's imprudent to be highly dubious of the intentions of people you've dealt with for generations and know to be half-hearted in their attempts for "peace."
Exactly.... Hamas shoots their rockets from parks/schools, etc... Places where children and Civilians POPULATE. They use innocent civilians as SHIELDS and are cowards because of that... So when Israel, takes out those wepons/leaders, and it happens to (accidently) (you really think Israel wants to kill children?) Hamas can say "oh look Israel is killing innocent civilians". Hamas/Iran/Hesbola both want to wipe Israel OFF THE MAP,(aka make it like they never existed) They dont give a crap about a peace treaty, or even getting some land... They want ALL the land....