Supplements

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Originally Posted by turnaround3

Would you guys consider BCAA's as important to muscle growth as protein and/or creatine? Why or why not?

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If you have a proper diet, BCAA supplementation is pretty useless unless you regularly train in a fasted state.

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Originally Posted by rawz

Does anyone think that they might put banned substance, or maybe prohormones in protein powder? That some companies may do that, to make it seem like there protein is alot better?

weird off the wall thought.....

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In another country very possible

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Originally Posted by Thumper 88

In another country very possible

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why not here? none of its fda regulated.

They still have to follow the laws of labeling everything thats in it... At least I think they do.

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Originally Posted by rawz

why not here? none of its fda regulated.

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FDA has no jurisdiction over supplements.

Prohormones are drugs. Therefore, the FDA could get involved.

The second sports supplements start containing non-natural ingredients, the whole industry goes to ****.

You dont want FDA regulation over supplement production.

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Originally Posted by Corey

FDA has no jurisdiction over supplements.

Prohormones are drugs. Therefore, the FDA could get involved.

The second sports supplements start containing non-natural ingredients, the whole industry goes to ****.

You dont want FDA regulation over supplement production.

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i agree they shouldnt. but they already cross the line. prohormones before the 2004 ban,and even now, with them tapering the line a little.

adding a carbon molecule at the end, to make it just slightly diffrent supplement....

i know they dont want fda regulation... but to get an edge, do you think they cross the line? taint there products maybe? idk.. just curious i guess.

Nope.

The second supplements start adding non naturally occurring ingredients, the FDA can get involved. No one wants that.

AAS/PH are readily accessible. It makes no sense for a company to include those in their sport supplements.

Both AAS/PH also require a strict dosing protocol with proper cycle aids and PCT in order to prevent side effects and maximize efficiency of the products...There would be no way for a company to ensure proper dosages if it was just spread into a product like protein.

Corey where do you get all your info on aas/ph?

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Originally Posted by Corey

FDA has no jurisdiction over supplements.

Prohormones are drugs. Therefore, the FDA could get involved.

The second sports supplements start containing non-natural ingredients, the whole industry goes to ****.

You dont want FDA regulation over supplement production.

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that would be very bad

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Originally Posted by Thumper 88

Corey where do you get all your info on aas/ph?

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Not sure where he gets his info on PH's, but there is a ton of info on them on the web. Just google it and you will find plenty of forums just like these with everything you need/want to know.

I got a sample of NO Explode 2.0 Watermelon, I thought it tasted disgusting.

Fruit Punch by S.A.N>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Originally Posted by Corey

Nope.

The second supplements start adding non naturally occurring ingredients, the FDA can get involved. No one wants that.

AAS/PH are readily accessible. It makes no sense for a company to include those in their sport supplements.

Both AAS/PH also require a strict dosing protocol with proper cycle aids and PCT in order to prevent side effects and maximize efficiency of the products...There would be no way for a company to ensure proper dosages if it was just spread into a product like protein.

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that makes sense.

why do you think companies are messing around with PH then ( the ones that probally should be banned right now, but arent?) or why did they (pre2004)? (curious)

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Originally Posted by rawz

that makes sense.

why do you think companies are messing around with PH then ( the ones that probally should be banned right now, but arent?) or why did they (pre2004)? (curious)

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Like whom?

There's still a market for prohormones. They're not all illegal...some are though. They can't be sold as supplements. To be considered a supplement, all ingredients must be naturally occurring. Once there's a non naturally occurring ingredient, it can no longer be categorized as a supplement, and must be categorized as a drug.

I could get any PH cycle online right now, and it would be shipped to my door within the next few days. They're easily accessible and legal for the most part.

Is it just me or is blue razz flavor c4 preworkout noticeably stronger than fruit pinch flavor?

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Originally Posted by Corey

Nope.

The second supplements start adding non naturally occurring ingredients, the FDA can get involved. No one wants that.

AAS/PH are readily accessible. It makes no sense for a company to include those in their sport supplements.

Both AAS/PH also require a strict dosing protocol with proper cycle aids and PCT in order to prevent side effects and maximize efficiency of the products...There would be no way for a company to ensure proper dosages if it was just spread into a product like protein.

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Your right. A company would face legal issues you couldn't imagine. A company would never secure those risk. The civil pentalties alone would be unreal.

0% chance in the USA....Which means none....