they tried that in 09 and he was even worse. no thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Rique
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they tried that in 09 and he was even worse. no thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Rique
Nice to see that his numbers will improve.Quote:
The Mets' new closer Bobby Parnell showcases a four-seam fastball that averages in the high 97s and often breaks 100. But results wise - as seen in the actual run values on the pitch - it really has not been impressive this year. But this appears to be mainly the result of bad luck, in fact the worst in baseball on a per pitch basis for a 4-seam fastball. Expect results to change.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...year#storyjump
Yeah, its a positive sign. Its a big month for Parnell. Hopefully, he makes the most of his opportunity.
Niese number one amongst cutters as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by clayamtion
I don't expect anything to change. He has no feel for pitching IMO, throwing 100 MPH darts down the middle does no good, I expect it to get hit hard every time. '
If Parnell had some soft stuff, it would be filthy, but he does not.
It seems everytime Parnell pitches he puts runners on. Even when he gets the save its because he has a cushion. I said before they ever made him the closer that I prefer a guy show some dominace as a relief guy before he gets promoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by paletsgomets
We had some posters here who fell in love with the radar gun and ignored reality. 103 MPH means **** against MLB hitters. Sure he can throw his fastball past lesser guys, but you do not face lesser guys every time you pitch. Good hitters can hit him and until he gets an idea of how to pitch and not just throw he will continue to get hammered.
Pale I know we do not always agree but on parnell I believe we are of like mind.
I think a pitcher like Parnell just proves that FIP and XFIP do not tell the whole story. Life is about results. Parnell fails too much to be a closer, so far. But then his results as a set up guy were not good enough to earn a promotion anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZHAKIDD532
People always claim luck or unlucky with BABIP, how can every guy with a high BABIP as a pitcher be unlucky? In order to have an average BABIP you need a high and a low, some guys are going to provide the high end all the time. Parnells WHIP says he is always putting guys on base.
Maybe he can play LF too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rique
I'm sure he's tried it but a change up or splitter would help Parnell tremendously. With his 100 mph FB, if you could drop in a change up or splitter, it would really help him.
The problem with the splitter is too many pitchers fail to throw it for strikes. Sure it gets some outs when you first use it since no is ready for it, but then they lay off it when they come to realize its never in the strike zone. I think that is a big reason it has become a lesser used pitch the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYman15
A Change up could make Parnell deadly, but control is the key. If he can not get strikes it does not matter what you throw. The only pitcher i can recall who never put a ball over the plate and was still good was John Franco.
Maybe if he slowed down the FB and got more movement he would be good, right now guys sit on his FB and no matter how hard he throws it MLB hitters can catch up to it.
Parnell should slow down his slider, and throw it around 83, that would help him. He needs more separation of velocity between his fastball and slider.
97-100 fastball and 88-91 slider is not much of a difference.
I'm ok with Parnell throwing his FB at 99-100 mph at times but I also want to see him use his 2 seamer more with it being around 94-96 mph with some more movement and mix in the slider. And I do agree a change up would be more beneficial than a splitter and if he could throw it for strikes, he would be deadly.
Letting him close this month can't hurt. He's never gonna be a starter and, he's never gonna be a closer. He's got a lot of potential, can't deny that but, he's too eratic. He's young so, there's plenty of time to try and mold him out into something better. He needs to work on a new pitch and control and he'll be fine.
If he will never be a closer or a starter what do you mold him into? Mediocre middle relief?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zmaster52
EDIT: He is 27 in 2 days. That is not old but it is about the time we should start to see if he has a chance to be something or not. You only get so many chances and so far he has not done much with the ones he has. The potential though should get him a couple more years of chances before he would be dumped.
That's pretty much what I was getting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoNyMetsGo