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boilerguy2412
05-03-2010, 07:47 AM
So i got to thinking about next season and i am just wondering what would make next year a success. Personally i really feel this team needs to rebuild but i honestly don't see it happening, i don't think the higher ups are ready to lose even more money waiting for a good team. IMO

Vokoun should be traded at the draft after seeing what the Ducks got for Pronger, a 36 year old aging d man, the Panthers could get a ton for Vokoun from a team like the Caps, Hawks, Stars or any other team looking for a starting goalie. I would be looking for a high 1st, top 6 forward, top pair d man, 2nd, 4th. I believe a team would be willing to give that much for Vokoun.

Then there are guys like Weiss, Olesz, Horton, Booth, McCabe. Out of these guys i would really like to see Weiss, Olesz, Horton go all these guys have never lived up to there potential and need to be moved now while people think they still have some. Horton and Weiss could fetch you some decent specs and picks i doubt Olesz gets you much. I think hanging on to guys like Booth and McCabe is the right move because both these guys are charcater players and bring leadership to this team and that's something we haven't had much of.

I do think the future is bright with guys like Ellerby, Reprik, Matthais, Kulikov, Markstrom + a few other young guys. I really think we have started to build a good team we just need to move the money guys and pick up a few young guys in trade and we should be a playoff team in a season or 2. I know we haven't seen a sniff in 8 years but don't hang your head with Debour behind the bench and some young guys coming up i think this team is headed in the right directions ans it better be or things could get really bad for this franchise.

BranWingss
05-05-2010, 05:40 PM
First off, Nathan Horton needs to be moved. I'm sure a team like the Rangers would be interested. There's always rumors of him being dealt and it needs to happen already.

Nathan Horton to the New York Rangers Prospals UFA rights, + Brandon Dubinsky.. Florida may have to add a bit though. Prospal and Dubinsky would help up front.

They also need to look to add a top four defenseman. The likes of Hamhuis, Kubina, Corvo, and Sutton would be a great pickup.

I'd keep Vokoun if they want to make the playoffs. It's harder to find a goalie than some offensive help. Higgins, Madden and Torres could really help this team defensively though.

305sportsfan
05-05-2010, 10:51 PM
I really think trading Horton or Weiss would be a mistake! Their talent isn't on par with their current value. They need help! Keep in mind that they played most of the season without Booth. I think trading Vokoun would be the best thing to do, since he's probably our most valuable player, value-wise. The problem is who gets the call up? Markstrom is arguably the best prospect right now, but he needs to spend some time in the AHL. Plante or Salak? Your pick, I'd like to see them, why not? I'm always up for a trade though, if the return is worth it.

sixers247
05-06-2010, 04:56 PM
Agrred!!!!!!!

boilerguy2412
05-07-2010, 03:50 PM
I really think trading Horton or Weiss would be a mistake! Their talent isn't on par with their current value. They need help! Keep in mind that they played most of the season without Booth. I think trading Vokoun would be the best thing to do, since he's probably our most valuable player, value-wise. The problem is who gets the call up? Markstrom is arguably the best prospect right now, but he needs to spend some time in the AHL. Plante or Salak? Your pick, I'd like to see them, why not? I'm always up for a trade though, if the return is worth it.

Both guys have been here since 2003 they aren't going to get any better, this team needs a culture change.

305sportsfan
05-08-2010, 11:33 PM
Both guys have been here since 2003 they aren't going to get any better, this team needs a culture change.

I'd hate to sound like a broken record, but they need a star to play with. I really liked Hortons hustle this season. It seemed to me like he's really starting to show some worth. As for Weiss he put up some career highs last season, and he and Deboer have teamed up in the past, so I don't see the coach wanting to part with him. But, this is just a fans opinion. I only see the guys in our colors and I root for them, call me old fashioned. Sure they frustrate the hell out of me, but as a normally pessimistic person, sports are just about the only thing I'm adamant on remaining positive about.

Who do you suppose we could get for Horton or Weiss? Who else would you shop?

boilerguy2412
05-10-2010, 01:48 PM
I think a team like Wild, Preds, Bluejackets would take a run at a guy like Weiss, he's fairly cheap 3.1mil and all those teams are in need of help at cente. IMO WEiss is never going to be anything more then a second line centre on a decent team. As for Horton any team in the league would want him, there would be a big market. He could fetch us a potential 1st round pick and perhabs a top prospect or 2. Weiss has an active no trade and i think Horton's starts on july 1st. These guys are becoming complacent that's the problem. Sure they put up decent numbers but they can't step up when it matters and that what stars do. I would call the Ducks about Ryan and the Stars about Riberio both guys can be had and Riberio can prolly go for cheap and would be a decent 1st line centre.

305sportsfan
05-10-2010, 10:08 PM
I'm not really interested in prospects, in my opinion we have enough. I'd like to see Ryan here, but playing with Horton :). Sorry man, I feel you, It'll just be hard to part ways with these guys. It's not like they were Ted Ginn Jr. busty haha.

boilerguy2412
05-11-2010, 02:08 PM
i really think the only way to imprive this team is go young. We have a solid core of youngsters coming up but there not ready Markstrom needs at least one more year and Ellerby, Repik could use another year of seasoning before they can be couonted on to be solid producers.

fishfan79
05-11-2010, 06:58 PM
every other team going on strike but us?

305sportsfan
05-11-2010, 11:39 PM
Mannn, all I want is a playoff berth! haha. Next season will be big for the Dolphins and Heat... I want the Panthers to join in on the fun. I can't wait to see who we draft and who we pick up. Have you heard anything about Booth?

boilerguy2412
05-14-2010, 05:40 PM
Booth will be ok, he just needs to rest up, he'll be fine. i wouldn't hold your breath about making the Playoffs

Miami_Megatron
05-17-2010, 11:20 PM
100% agree.....tho i do like Horton...i think its time to change direction

305sportsfan
05-22-2010, 05:07 PM
Well, with Tallon up in the office, I'm sure things should be shaken up. I recognize that Weiss is a 2nd line center, and I would much rather trade him, and give Horton the wake up call, seeing as how he's got a higher ceiling, and is just better than Weiss. Know of any FA Centers that could be a potential 1st line center? Is this: http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2010-nhl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-position/
accurate? Also, lets not forget all those 2nd round picks we have, maybe we could toss one of those in with Weiss and get a deal.

fins08
05-25-2010, 03:35 PM
Horton is just OK. He did not do too much. Booth will be a stud however. I wanna keep Vokoun one more year and then bring in Maarkstrom. He will be good, but Frolik Booth and a solid FA will do.

305sportsfan
05-25-2010, 07:26 PM
Frolik showed some promise... Booth showed he can't skate with his head up. I'm really worried about him, to be quite honest. I don't know why everyones hating on Horton. Let's not forget in 08 he had to play center, and this season got to play back on the RW. He was our 2nd leading scorer, having played 65 games... He's one of our biggest forwards, if not THE biggest. He was setting up guys nicely, showing his patience in the offensive zone. Frolik showed some glimpses of what's expected... BUT it took being threatened to happen. To be honest I would like to see Tallon make him play in the AHL, make him play with a chip on his shoulder.

fishfan79
05-25-2010, 08:22 PM
First off, Nathan Horton needs to be moved. I'm sure a team like the Rangers would be interested. There's always rumors of him being dealt and it needs to happen already.

Nathan Horton to the New York Rangers Prospals UFA rights, + Brandon Dubinsky.. Florida may have to add a bit though. Prospal and Dubinsky would help up front.

They also need to look to add a top four defenseman. The likes of Hamhuis, Kubina, Corvo, and Sutton would be a great pickup.

I'd keep Vokoun if they want to make the playoffs. It's harder to find a goalie than some offensive help. Higgins, Madden and Torres could really help this team defensively though.

you can very easily argue that horton was our most improved player last year his heart and hustle was great if he didnt get injured he would of had a great year still he was a ppg player last year basically

totally and completely against trading horton, weiss and booth isnt worth the value we would get for him.

305sportsfan
05-29-2010, 09:17 AM
you can very easily argue that horton was our most improved player last year his heart and hustle was great if he didnt get injured he would of had a great year still he was a ppg player last year basically

totally and completely against trading horton, weiss and booth isnt worth the value we would get for him.

:clap: That's what I'm sayin' too! heh. We need to build around these guys! Get Booth and Horton a bigger, true 1st line center, and move Weiss down to the 2nd. I love Weiss, but we need size! If we could get someone to stand in front of the net, like Byfuglien has been doing for Kane and Toews in this playoff run, it would benefit everyone greatly. Weiss will get to play with Frolik, and _____ on the 2nd line. I like Olesz, but if we can package him, with a 2nd rounder, for something decent I suppose I wouldn't hate Tallon so much :p.

Miami_Megatron
06-03-2010, 04:43 AM
I wish Ilya Kovalchuk

jrguerrero99
06-04-2010, 09:48 AM
I wish Ilya Kovalchuk

We all wish for kovalchuk but we are the panthers and we dont go after big time free agents

Carper745
06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
Who the F8ck plays hockey..... d*mn white people

305sportsfan
06-04-2010, 02:36 PM
Who the F8ck plays hockey..... d*mn white people

It's pretty popular worldwide actually... That's why it's in the OLYMPICS :D. My question is, who the hell brings up people like you? :D

305sportsfan
06-04-2010, 02:37 PM
I wish Ilya Kovalchuk

Don't hold your breath :mad:. We'll probably pick up some people we'll have to look up. Hopefully our offseason is as active as the Phins has been, and how the Heat's promises to be.

fins08
06-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Nobody wants to come here though to play hockey. Tallon plus new owners hopefully means new spending. I'd love some big names, im just too skeptical.

305sportsfan
06-07-2010, 12:22 PM
Nobody wants to come here though to play hockey. Tallon plus new owners hopefully means new spending. I'd love some big names, im just too skeptical.

I feel you man, years of getting di$#ed around will do that to you. The Panthers have a lot to live up to with the Dolphins having a great offseason in the FA market, and the Heat being set up to make a big splash as well. Tallon seems like he'll try and do most of the building through the draft though. Time will tell!