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Wrigleyboy25
07-22-2008, 02:12 PM
http://www.johnmccain.com/video/love.htm

:laugh:

JHG722
07-22-2008, 02:21 PM
Conservative bias aside, that makes me feel sick...

Shieldsz
07-22-2008, 02:22 PM
wow :laugh:

Raidaz4Life
07-22-2008, 02:36 PM
pretty funny I mean I really am not a fan of either candidate but it is hilarious how much the media hails Obama as the savior when I think he has the potential to screw up just as badly as Bush.... just not in the same way

Max Power
07-22-2008, 02:55 PM
Funny stuff.

Some of those clips are downright creepy. MSNBC should do the right thing and change their name to MSDNC.

DenButsu
07-22-2008, 06:41 PM
Of course, the same kind of thing could not be created about McCain, as the media has never been all over his sack. :rolleyes:

rhino17
07-22-2008, 06:43 PM
^^
dude, you are ignorant if you honestly think the media is not loving obama more

rhino17
07-22-2008, 06:44 PM
^^
dude, you are ignorant if you honestly think the media is not loving obama more

ari1013
07-22-2008, 06:47 PM
Of course, the same kind of thing could not be created about McCain, as the media has never been all over his sack. :rolleyes:
Have you noticed that whenever things are down for the Republicans they just start blaming the media?

If the media actually took a look at the words coming out of McCain's mouth at face value, he'd be a laughing stock. He's lucky they're being so nice to him, otherwise this wouldn't be a race at all.

Last week it was Czechoslovakia. This week it's the "border" of Iraq and Pakistan. And it's not just a one-time mistake. He repeats them over and over again. And then when he finally gets called on it, we hear "I never said that." And the "lib-rul meed-yah" falls for it again.

rhino17
07-22-2008, 06:47 PM
^^
dude, you are ignorant if you honestly think the media is not loving obama more

DenButsu
07-22-2008, 07:08 PM
^^
dude, you are ignorant if you honestly think the media is not loving obama more

:eyebrow:

Just to save myself some time, I'm going to lift a bit from a previous post of my own so I don't have to go through it all again:

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And I'm sorry, but the world you guys are living in is a dark cave with no television or internet news if you can't see the MSM is just absolutely licking McCain's nuts with shocking eagerness.

Like this (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gaPBlQ3eWWaeZO--N5QxhYqFo3XQD91N6SK88) (an AP "analysis" which could have been copied from a McCain campaign talking points fax)

Or this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25536472/) piece by a different AP writer pushing the same pro-McCain anti-Obama talking points (McCain's flip-flopping is good, Obama's is bad)

Here's (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11588.html)the AP pushing the idea that Obama is "less compassionate" than McCain because he's not a freakin' pet owner. :crazy:

Here's another AP piece (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080708/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_budget_promises) of "analysis" promoting McCain's talking points, claiming:

Barack Obama says John McCain's plan to balance the budget doesn't add up. Easy for him to say: It's not a goal he's even trying to reach.When in fact McCain's bugdet sure as **** doesn't add up! But I guess that's okay because... he's John McCain! :clap:



Here's another good one (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/07/08/political_play_wife_pokes_mccain_in_the_back/) from the AP, spinning McCain's "joke" about killing Iranians with cigarretes as just a little bit of amusing, cheeky wife-husband foolery.



Okay, I think 5 examples of blatant pro-McCain, anti-Obama bias are enough for now. Now that we've seen them all lain out, let's see if you can identify the common pattern between all of them?


If you guessed the Associated Press, then you are correct! :clap:


And the AP's Washington Bureau Chief is a loyal Republican and McCain supporter:

At least he sure is buddy-buddy with Karl Rove (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/fournier_to_rove_keep_up_the_fight.php), so that's probably a safe assumption.

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Yes, Rhino, there's plenty of pro-McCain bias to be found in the media. Not the least of which is that they actually keep buying all his "straight talk" BS when it's nearly impossible to find a single policy position he hasn't changed his stance on repeatedly. :laugh2:

JHG722
07-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Ari, whatever you're smokin, I want some man. That's some good ****...

PUGS1688
07-22-2008, 11:13 PM
And this is why the media picks the next president, not the people.

Lady's Man
07-22-2008, 11:15 PM
media is liberal in general, but during this election they are especially biased. I think the NY Times reported the rev. wright story on like page 17 or something and that was only because they were forced to.

ari1013
07-22-2008, 11:16 PM
Ari, whatever you're smokin, I want some man. That's some good ****...
It's called reality. Open wide and take a deep breath.

ari1013
07-22-2008, 11:18 PM
media is liberal in general, but during this election they are especially biased. I think the NY Times reported the rev. wright story on like page 17 or something and that was only because they were forced to.
Look, Obama gets attention, but it's not always good. People talk about his "ties" to Rezko, but they don't talk about McCain's "ties" to Keating. Or about how the McCains are back due on their property taxes for one of their estates in Malibu. It goes both ways.

Lady's Man
07-22-2008, 11:22 PM
true, obama is seen as different.... black, middle-aged...... and so he gets a lot of attention. And though that attention may not always be good, the media nevers tries to portray him negatively. For instance, with the Rev. Wright situation, the media always gave him the benefit of the doubt. Had wright beed involved with mccain, you can bet mccain would be finished by now.

ari1013
07-22-2008, 11:35 PM
true, obama is seen as different.... black, middle-aged...... and so he gets a lot of attention. And though that attention may not always be good, the media nevers tries to portray him negatively. For instance, with the Rev. Wright situation, the media always gave him the benefit of the doubt. Had wright beed involved with mccain, you can bet mccain would be finished by now.
Really? I bet they wouldn't talk about it at all.... Like what's happened with Parsley and Hagee's comments. I've heard Wright's name in the last week in reference to Obama. I haven't heard about Parsley or Hagee in a while.

How about Phil Gramm? How long did it take for the media to notice how crazy he is? If he was with Obama they'd all be over how inexperienced Obama is and how he's susceptible to bad influences like Gramm (kind of like how we hear about his ties to Bill Ayers).

I'm sure that if I took some time I could put together a study that shows the media is biased any way I'd want it to be. That's the deal with statistics. You can always get them to say what you want.

Republicans have been attacking the press as long as I can remember. That's just the way it is. It doesn't matter how much they cater to the right, they're still portrayed as extreme lefties. The NY Times puts up blatant rightwing propaganda in the form of Bill Kristol's column each week because they wanted to appear more balanced. How has their image changed in the last few months?

Lady's Man
07-22-2008, 11:44 PM
well, those comments havent affected mccain that much b/c the media knows they let obama off the hook so bashing mccain would make them look one-sided.

All else being equal, i think if Rev Wright had been mccain's problem and not obama, then i think we can agree that he would severly crippled by the situation.

Politicians bash each other, that's their only job it seems like. These people are too dumb to suceed in real life, so they turn to politics. Republicans blame the media. Democrats blame people that make money. Its a never-ending cycle.

redsox12
07-22-2008, 11:57 PM
In the end I think the majority of voters is not going to get their info from the left or right wing blogs. I think most of them will get there info from the three evening news programs and right now IMO they are pro-Obama.

gcoll
07-23-2008, 02:38 AM
Denbutsu, you can point to a few articles where people speak positively about Mccain.....but the way some anchors, and other people in the media treat Obama, like he's one of the Beatles...is unique to him.



I've heard Wright's name in the last week in reference to Obama. I haven't heard about Parsley or Hagee in a while.
Because it's not really the same thing.

Also, Wright is old news. Perhaps his name was used in passing, but he's yesterday's news.


Republicans have been attacking the press as long as I can remember. That's just the way it is. It doesn't matter how much they cater to the right, they're still portrayed as extreme lefties
Perception is reality. And people perceive a liberal bias in the press.

Can't say that I disagree with them. But, perhaps I'm brainwashed.

DenButsu
07-23-2008, 04:29 AM
Denbutsu, you can point to a few articles where people speak positively about Mccain.....but the way some anchors, and other people in the media treat Obama, like he's one of the Beatles...is unique to him.

But in that sense we're really talking about two separate issues - both media issues, but different ones.


What you're talking about is more of a tone, or a mood, or a sentiment, in the general way some media figures talk about Obama. It's more of a "cult of personality" type issue (and I'm sure bb will just be ecstatic that I used the word "cult" :cool: ) where they are caught up in the drama of "Obama as phenomenon".


But what I'm talking about is more issue oriented, and really much more substantial in my opinion. And that is the disproportionate scrutiny that the media gives Obama, the fine-toothed-comb approach to making mountains out of molehills with every little move he makes - no matter how trivial. Whereas they continually and blatantly give McCain free pass after free pass after free pass on all sorts of stuff, from copying Obama's policies to changing his own positions ad nauseum, to flat out being wrong about some pretty major stuff.

There are good reasons that liberals point to the multiple McCain references to Iran funding Al Qaeda as a glaring example of this. One is simply the fact that he did state and restate this assertion multiple times, signifying that it wasn't merely the "gaffe" the media made it out to be (basically just taking his word for it rather than really digging into the story). But another important one is that it's really damn frustrating for us to sit back and watch that happen when we know - and conservatives know as well - that if Obama had made the same "gaffe" (or more accurately had failed to grasp the true nature of the situation), the media would have been all over it instantly, with massive headlines and 5 minute CNN pieces by Blitzer on "Is Obama really this confused about Iran, Al Qaeda and Iraq?!?" They'd give him the Rev. Wright treatment on that for sure, just as they did by falsely claiming he'd "flip-flopped" on his Iraq policy, etc.



So maybe the media as a whole finds Obama more "adorable" or something, but they sure do handle McCain with kid gloves when it comes to the real issues, and I think the latter is a much more serious journalistic failure.

sboyajian
07-23-2008, 07:48 AM
I could make a longer video with clips from FOX which shows nothing by undying love for Republicans... sometimes I think if it wouldn't get a fine from the FCC, FOX news anchors would actually perform oral services on McCain or Bush.

blenderboy5
07-23-2008, 09:13 AM
Well technically they could. Networks like Fox aren't subjected to the same FCC regulations as CBS, ABC, and NBC because FNC isn't public broadcasting, but a cable network.

sboyajian
07-23-2008, 09:51 AM
Well technically they could. Networks like Fox aren't subjected to the same FCC regulations as CBS, ABC, and NBC because FNC isn't public broadcasting, but a cable network.

cable or not, FOX could not show it. They have less restrictions but there are still general guidelines for the air. They do also have less after I believe it's 10PM..

but that would not be a Media Loves McCain video I'd be wanting to have to edit. ;)

Raidaz4Life
07-23-2008, 11:40 AM
I don't think anyone really "loves" McCain. I mean there are a few but i think most people are voting for McCain out of fear of the alternative. I mean in all honesty I am just as scared to put the economy in McCain's hands as Obama's and this is coming from a Laissez-Faire capitalist.

But the media definitely has a goal of portraying Obama as the face of a new America and from what I have seen and heard about Obama that is an America I'm not entirely sure I want to be associated with

Max Power
07-23-2008, 02:14 PM
I could make a longer video with clips from FOX which shows nothing by undying love for Republicans... sometimes I think if it wouldn't get a fine from the FCC, FOX news anchors would actually perform oral services on McCain or Bush

FOX is a national joke, but MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

Matthews' "thrill up his leg", "deliverance" and "the world's gift to us" lines are beyond creepy and Olberhack now spends almost as much time obsessing over Obama as he does obsessing over Bill O'Reilly.

MSNBC is nothing more than attempt to be the opposite of FOX. They both set back news reporting in the country years. Just because one speaks their crap out of a different side of their mouth, it doesn't mean it's not still crap.

But atleast MSDNC shows reruns of Dateline more than they show "news"

Lady's Man
07-23-2008, 02:38 PM
i watch cnn and foxnews, but your right msnbc is horrible.

The Schmooze
07-23-2008, 04:31 PM
i watch cnn and foxnews, but your right msnbc is horrible.

MSNBC is probably the lesser of the other two evils.....especially FOX News

ink
07-23-2008, 05:16 PM
It's human nature isn't it? To be more interested in someone with charisma. Of course everyone hopes that people will deal with politicians on a deeper level than that, but it's not surprising Obama gets more coverage. He's a more interesting person by far. And despite the best attempts to denigrate him by his opponents, there is substance to his ideas, so he does well both ways.

Seems to me this story has been covered before. Early 60's - Kennedy vs. Nixon.

NYMets27
07-24-2008, 04:45 PM
I could make a longer video with clips from FOX which shows nothing by undying love for Republicans... sometimes I think if it wouldn't get a fine from the FCC, FOX news anchors would actually perform oral services on McCain or Bush.

fox news is the only decent news station all the other stations have the offices on obamas sack, y didnt those stations go 2 the middle east wen mccain went and better yet y wouldnt obama let matthews come with him???

PHX-SOXFAN
07-24-2008, 06:11 PM
fox news is the only decent news station all the other stations have the offices on obamas sack, y didnt those stations go 2 the middle east wen mccain went and better yet y wouldnt obama let matthews come with him???

what's so decent about how they pulled for Guiliani all the way through the primary, put a guy like Hannity on the air, push O'Reilly, then give another hour of primetime to Greta and the missing persons show?:confused:

Obama doesn't acknowledge foxnews at all to begin with so this isn't anything new. the way they have pushed racist innuendo throughout this campaign is reason enough. do you need a refresher on the racist innuendo? Just let me know, it's an easy list to provide.

PHX-SOXFAN
07-24-2008, 06:39 PM
:speechless: obama doesnt acknowledge fox news??????????????????????????????? r u serious.... this cnt b tru.........no1 has pushed racsist innuendos across bc if i remeber rite the guy who fills in 4 hannity is black....and u wanna kno y hannity and o reilly and limbaugh and such pushed guilianni because he is more conservative and shares more of there views. now they want mccain because like hannity has said on his radio show he wins by default because ure boy osama is a socialist idiot

and dont call me racsist bro cause that aint gonna work and thts wat u guys do wenecer some1 is against him they must b a racist bigot

I never once called you racist in my post, check for yourself. Your jumping to a defensive position for no reason, is there something you would like to share with the group?:D

Since you need a refresher on foxnews racist innuendos:

calling michelle obama "Obama's baby's momma"
o'reilly and the "lynching party" comment
the "terrorist fist jab?"

let me know how long you want me to go on.:D

NYMets27
07-24-2008, 06:47 PM
I never once called you racist in my post, check for yourself. Your jumping to a defensive position for no reason, is there something you would like to share with the group?:D

Since you need a refresher on foxnews racist innuendos:

calling michelle obama "Obama's baby's momma"
o'reilly and the "lynching party" comment
the "terrorist fist jab?"

let me know how long you want me to go on.:D

not sayin u called me racist im say just DONT i dnt like that stand that obama supporters use.:D

those r just dumb comments 2 use i admit but neither o reilly or hannity has been going crazy 2 promote mccain since he won the primary.:D

but please answer me y ull nevr hear good things about mccain on cnn, msnbc, abc. :D

ink
07-24-2008, 06:50 PM
not sayin u called me racist im say just DONT i dnt like that stand that obama supporters use.:D

those r just dumb comments 2 use i admit but neither o reilly or hannity has been going crazy 2 promote mccain since he won the primary.:D

but please answer me y ull nevr hear good things about mccain on cnn, msnbc, abc. :D

Chill out guys. And Mets, stop with the baiting. You've already received an infraction.

DenButsu
07-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Chill out guys. And Mets, stop with the baiting. You've already received an infraction.

Listen to ink - and heed his advice. Down this road lie infractions and bans, so don't go there.

And go back and re-read the forum rules if you've forgotten (or weren't aware) that there's no tolerance for personal insults, flaming, baiting, etc. here.

ari1013
07-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Well technically they could. Networks like Fox aren't subjected to the same FCC regulations as CBS, ABC, and NBC because FNC isn't public broadcasting, but a cable network.
But Fox Sunday with Chris Wallace is -- and that's why Chris Wallace is actually watchable. ;)

ari1013
07-24-2008, 08:34 PM
not sayin u called me racist im say just DONT i dnt like that stand that obama supporters use.:D

those r just dumb comments 2 use i admit but neither o reilly or hannity has been going crazy 2 promote mccain since he won the primary.:D

but please answer me y ull nevr hear good things about mccain on cnn, msnbc, abc. :D
Really? Chris Matthews fawns all over McCain. During the primaries he was talking about how either Rudy or McCain will have his vote in November.

CBS just did a whole cover-up for McCain that they're getting blasted over right now. McCain got a bunch of facts wrong so they basically ran an edit and dumped the comments.

As far as why the entire world can't go with Obama on his trip, he only had room for 40 press agents. 38 of the top 40 global news agencies were represented.

tomno00
07-24-2008, 09:05 PM
phx-soxfan..... fox news says things that dont need to be said, but didnt andrea mitchell of msnbc call everyone that do not live in major cities red necks or white trash or something?

NYMets27
07-24-2008, 09:14 PM
Really? Chris Matthews fawns all over McCain. During the primaries he was talking about how either Rudy or McCain will have his vote in November.

CBS just did a whole cover-up for McCain that they're getting blasted over right now. McCain got a bunch of facts wrong so they basically ran an edit and dumped the comments.

As far as why the entire world can't go with Obama on his trip, he only had room for 40 press agents. 38 of the top 40 global news agencies were represented.


if they are only allowed that many his advisors as well as him should be blasted because evryone that he is bringing has a liberal point of view. They want to pollute the public with all this news on him, so they must expect for fox to bash his campaign when they wont let Matthews go to report.

ari1013
07-24-2008, 11:19 PM
if they are only allowed that many his advisors as well as him should be blasted because evryone that he is bringing has a liberal point of view. They want to pollute the public with all this news on him, so they must expect for fox to bash his campaign when they wont let Matthews go to report.
It's gotta be a tough life when it's just you vs. the world.

Max Power
07-25-2008, 12:23 AM
Really? Chris Matthews fawns all over McCain. During the primaries he was talking about how either Rudy or McCain will have his vote in November.


You're going to have to provide some kind of link to this.

I find it very hard to believe this is the case seeing how Matthews gets the O-face when simply hearing the word Obama.

Game_Over
07-25-2008, 04:02 AM
The media Obama love fest is getting sick. Every magazine has him or him and the whole familly on it!! The media has already showed thier man crush on him and it just doesn't stop there.. I am on vacation and went to Venice beach and everywhere they had whole stands to his shirts and stickers and out of the five I saw for him not one McCain.. I am not for McCain or Obama, I am actually democrat but this love fest for Obama is pushing me to vote for McCain even though I never thought I would vote the other way!!

DenButsu
07-25-2008, 04:18 AM
The media Obama love fest is getting sick. Every magazine has him or him and the whole familly on it!! The media has already showed thier man crush on him and it just doesn't stop there.. I am on vacation and went to Venice beach and everywhere they had whole stands to his shirts and stickers and out of the five I saw for him not one McCain.. I am not for McCain or Obama, I am actually democrat but this love fest for Obama is pushing me to vote for McCain even though I never thought I would vote the other way!!

Aw, fess up to the truth now, G.O. -- this love fest has little to do with it - or at least it's just one more thing on your long list.

You had a flag pin/no-hand-over-heart anti-Obama sig months ago... We talked about it, remember? :cool:

Game_Over
07-25-2008, 04:53 AM
Aw, fess up to the truth now, G.O. -- this love fest has little to do with it - or at least it's just one more thing on your long list.

You had a flag pin/no-hand-over-heart anti-Obama sig months ago... We talked about it, remember? :cool:

Yeah I admit I was for Hillary and that was was for when they were both in the running!! Now that he has won, he has done nothing to make me want to vote for him.. I don't know what it is but I really don't like this Obama love fest gowing on lol.. My aunt is one of them she is all over him and I just think don't get it personally.. My main reason against Obama is I don't see how you could go to a racist church for 20 years and not have the same views.. Now I know in todays society it is ok to think a white person is racist but not a black person, but that is what I think he is!! Sorry but that is the way I feel and I get so much ohh you don't want to vote for Obama cause he is black and that makes me so made cause it isn't true.. I would vote for Colin Powell in a heart beat because to me he is the only one in his own way said this war is crap!! People are making Obama out to be a saint and he is just like every other slimmy politition.. I also think we need to drill our own oil and tell these oil countries to shove it!! Sorry Den I just don't have a man crush on Obama like most of the rest of this country!!

DenButsu
07-25-2008, 05:47 AM
I wouldn't ask anybody to have a man crush on anybody. :laugh2:


But I would say this:

Each candidate should be judged based on his own actions. Rev. Wright has said some pretty anti-white racist stuff, there's no two ways around that. But to characterize the whole church as "a racist church" is pretty unfair, I think. That church has done a lot of great work in that community; many positive things have come out of it. I'm sure that the majority of parishioners there are tolerant, reasonable, non-racist people who just happen to go to that church. It's not as if racism is an organizing principle of the place, or a membership requirement.

You say you were a Clinton supporter. I'd say that there was a lot more stuff that came directly out of that camp (particularly from Bill) that could be construed as subtly or even overtly racist than there has been directly out of the Obama camp. In fact, I'd challenge you to come up with a single example of Obama being racist himself.


Why is it so easy for people to believe the "Obama is racist" myth when in fact it was McCain who used the power of his political office to oppose Martin Luther King, Jr. Day? :shrug:

ari1013
07-25-2008, 09:39 AM
You're going to have to provide some kind of link to this.

I find it very hard to believe this is the case seeing how Matthews gets the O-face when simply hearing the word Obama.

From the March 1 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: Do we want a kind of a Michael -- a nitroglycerine pill, something to really shake up the world and say, "Hey, look we're alive, we've got this hot new president and we're going to take you guys -- by the way his name is -- middle name is Hussein. Get used to it." You know, we can have a guy with a third-world background to some extent. We've got a young guy here, or we've got Rudy Giuliani, the one tough cop who was standing on the beat when we got hit last time and stood up and took it.




Here's a quick quote I found. Let me see if I can find a video as well of the specific event I'm talking about.

ari1013
07-25-2008, 09:45 AM
Yeah I admit I was for Hillary and that was was for when they were both in the running!! Now that he has won, he has done nothing to make me want to vote for him.. I don't know what it is but I really don't like this Obama love fest gowing on lol.. My aunt is one of them she is all over him and I just think don't get it personally.. My main reason against Obama is I don't see how you could go to a racist church for 20 years and not have the same views.. Now I know in todays society it is ok to think a white person is racist but not a black person, but that is what I think he is!! Sorry but that is the way I feel and I get so much ohh you don't want to vote for Obama cause he is black and that makes me so made cause it isn't true.. I would vote for Colin Powell in a heart beat because to me he is the only one in his own way said this war is crap!! People are making Obama out to be a saint and he is just like every other slimmy politition.. I also think we need to drill our own oil and tell these oil countries to shove it!! Sorry Den I just don't have a man crush on Obama like most of the rest of this country!!
Why do people always bring up Colin Powell after saying something involving the word racist?

DenButsu
07-25-2008, 09:55 AM
Here's a quick quote I found. Let me see if I can find a video as well of the specific event I'm talking about.

I know Matthews said directly to McCain, "You're in my heart."

And I know he and Russert (was Matthews interviewing him? I think so) basically openly admitted and agreed that they - the media, including themselves - were being really harsh on Obama while at the same time giving McCain a free pass. (During the Rev. Wright stuff).

PHX-SOXFAN
07-25-2008, 12:04 PM
phx-soxfan..... fox news says things that dont need to be said, but didnt andrea mitchell of msnbc call everyone that do not live in major cities red necks or white trash or something?

I have no idea, I'm not here to defend msnbc.:confused:

I am here to belittle an illegitimate, biased, and racist news agency, and rip them apart every time someone claims they are actually fair and balanced or a good source for news or opinion.

PHX-SOXFAN
07-25-2008, 12:08 PM
Why do people always bring up Colin Powell after saying something involving the word racist?

because he was first used as a token by GW in the cabinet. They put him there, looked at him, and never listened to him. It all trickles down from our leadership.:D

Max Power
07-25-2008, 12:17 PM
Here's a quick quote I found. Let me see if I can find a video as well of the specific event I'm talking about.

He was comparing the candidates. There nothing remotely close to an endosement in there. Anywhere.



I am here to belittle an illegitimate, biased, and racist news agency, and rip them apart every time someone claims they are actually fair and balanced or a good source for news or opinion.


Is this in reference to FOX or MSNBC? Seeing as they are just opposite ends of the same candle and everything.

ink
07-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Some good Obama jokes starting to surface. I liked this one by Jon Stewart ...

"After a quick meet-and-greet with King Abdullah, Obama was off to Israel, where he made a quick stop at the manger in Bethlehem where he was born."

:laugh2:

Max Power
07-25-2008, 12:21 PM
And I know he and Russert (was Matthews interviewing him? I think so) basically openly admitted and agreed that they - the media, including themselves - were being really harsh on Obama while at the same time giving McCain a free pass. (During the Rev. Wright stuff).

I vaguely remember this. It had the feel of two parents wondering if they are too tough in their own children.

PHX-SOXFAN
07-25-2008, 12:44 PM
He was comparing the candidates. There nothing remotely close to an endosement in there. Anywhere.




Is this in reference to FOX or MSNBC? Seeing as they are just opposite ends of the same candle and everything.

I don't pay attention to msnbc since they really don't hide their intentions. I do pay attention to fox since they try to veil their intentions and present themselves as legitimate and unbiased. rip on msnbc all you want. those who watch it know what they are getting and don't have any illusions about it. many of those who watch fox actually think they may be fair and balanced and present a middle of the road news source.

ari1013
07-25-2008, 02:17 PM
He was comparing the candidates. There nothing remotely close to an endosement in there. Anywhere.




Is this in reference to FOX or MSNBC? Seeing as they are just opposite ends of the same candle and everything.
Yeah I couldn't find the exact quote. But I definitely heard it right after New Hampshire. That was just an example -- which was quite a bit more than a fair comparison.

Bear in mind that it was that "evil liberal media" that spread the idea that Romney was finished and McCain was the man.

Bobby Cox
07-25-2008, 08:56 PM
the media abosolutely LOVES obama and it is so annoying. It is comming to a point where the man is becomming too advertised and that voters, especailly younger ones, are becomming less and less interested.

And is it just me, or is anyone else annoyed by the way obama talks? It seems like he pauses every other word to announciate his points. Just talk normal please, we arent dumb.

gcoll
07-25-2008, 11:12 PM
And is it just me, or is anyone else annoyed by the way obama talks?
No. He annoys me.


It seems like he pauses every other word to announciate his points. Just talk normal please, we arent dumb.
To me, his speaking style seems very pretentious.....I'm searching for a word, but that's the only one that comes to mind. I use that one too much though.

MiaBeastley
07-25-2008, 11:41 PM
Everytime he talks it is all thought up before hand, what I really want to see is him answer questions without knowing what it will be, ex. town hall like I have said in other forums

gcoll
07-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Everytime he talks it is all thought up before hand, what I really want to see is him answer questions without knowing what it will be, ex. town hall like I have said in other forums

My first question to Obama would be "Does your wife have a penis?"...seriously. That's a dude. I don't care what anyone says. That's a guy.

MiaBeastley
07-25-2008, 11:50 PM
My first question to Obama would be "Does your wife have a penis?"...seriously. That's a dude. I don't care what anyone says. That's a guy.


Bruh it is funny and she does look a little manly but everytime someone says an ignorant comment like that it just hurts the conservative cause

redsox12
07-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Obama doesn't acknowledge foxnews at all to begin with so this isn't anything new.

I believe Obama is doing an interview with Fox after he returns from his trip.


I am here to belittle an illegitimate, biased, and racist news agency, and rip them apart every time someone claims they are actually fair and balanced or a good source for news or opinion.

Fox News is fair and balanced, you may not like Hannity but that is why Colmes is there. You have admitted O'Reily is being more fair this election. The news part of Fox news is fair and balanced. In the Day when major news is reported, there is no signs of bias.

As to the fist jab comment, that was done by E.D. Hill who apologized and has since lost her show. So there is no signs of bias in the Fox news department.

MiaBeastley
07-26-2008, 12:12 AM
I believe Obama is doing an interview with Fox after he returns from his trip.



Fox News is fair and balanced, you may not like Hannity but that is why Colmes is there. You have admitted O'Reily is being more fair this election. The news part of Fox news is fair and balanced. In the Day when major news is reported, there is no signs of bias.

As to the fist jab comment, that was done by E.D. Hill who apologized and has since lost her show. So there is no signs of bias in the Fox news department.


Yes they are the most balanced channel.

Even tho O' Reilly wasn't on today the woman who sat in for him opened with like 30 mins. of Obama, and they constanly have ex. Clinton representatives on fox.

And Colmes is just there to piss off the Hannity Fans/Conservatives/Me

ari1013
07-26-2008, 01:00 AM
My first question to Obama would be "Does your wife have a penis?"...seriously. That's a dude. I don't care what anyone says. That's a guy.
way to lead the thread in a positive direction

gcoll
07-26-2008, 01:01 AM
way to lead the thread in a positive direction

You gotta admit. She's got some broad shoulders.

But apparently, I'm hurting the conservative cause by being silly.

ari1013
07-26-2008, 01:02 AM
I believe Obama is doing an interview with Fox after he returns from his trip.



Fox News is fair and balanced, you may not like Hannity but that is why Colmes is there. You have admitted O'Reily is being more fair this election. The news part of Fox news is fair and balanced. In the Day when major news is reported, there is no signs of bias.

As to the fist jab comment, that was done by E.D. Hill who apologized and has since lost her show. So there is no signs of bias in the Fox news department.
Pairing a 20-year vet of talk radio with his good friend (and a former stand-up comic) and making it look like they're having a debate really brings the word balanced to my mind.

ari1013
07-26-2008, 01:03 AM
You gotta admit. She's got some broad shoulders.

But apparently, I'm hurting the conservative cause by being silly.
I got the joke. I'm just saying, it's not helping any.

DenButsu
07-26-2008, 01:18 AM
Fox News is fair and balanced

Uh-huh.

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/07/24/fox_depicts_proobama_europeans_as_scary_black_peop le.php

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130016?f=h_latest

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/fox_news_poll_do_you_have_a_ne.php


And that's just from the last 2 days.

Max Power
07-26-2008, 01:24 AM
As someone who prides himself as being "in the middle" I can say without any kind of reservation that FOX News is the farthest thing in the world from 'fair and balanced'.

OK, maybe the second farthest, behind MSNBC. But it's close either way.

MiaBeastley
07-26-2008, 01:34 AM
Uh-huh.

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/07/24/fox_depicts_proobama_europeans_as_scary_black_peop le.php

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130016?f=h_latest

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/fox_news_poll_do_you_have_a_ne.php


And that's just from the last 2 days.


They are all going after Obama, there are none of them that bed under McCain's nuts like the Obama supporters do.

ari1013
07-26-2008, 11:04 AM
They are all going after Obama, there are none of them that bed under McCain's nuts like the Obama supporters do.
Care to back that up?

redsox12
07-26-2008, 11:51 AM
Uh-huh.

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/07/24/...k_peop le.php

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130016?f=h_latest

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoi..._have_a_ne.php


And that's just from the last 2 days.

In all the links the real news reporting was not criticized, what was? The close-ups, opinion polls, and I don't listen to the radio. I'm only talking about the tv channel.

I noticed this in the first link.

We watch FOX so you don't have to.

It's clear it's a liberal site. If you don't really watch Fox News and let these guys tell you all the bad of Fox then they are telling you it's a bad channel and you never decided for yourself.

Here is a conservative one

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

It's full of liberal media bias. If you only listen to them, then you don't get to decide for yourself.

It's kind of like what Fox Says "We Report You Decide". They are only asking people to watch and see for them selfs and then make a opinion

ari1013
07-26-2008, 11:15 PM
That Fox motto would work if they provided news, but they provide administration talking points instead. Scott McClellan just admitted to it on Hardball last night:


MATTHEWS: So, you wouldn’t use Brit Hume to sell stuff for them, but you’d use some of the nighttime guys?

MCCLELLAN: Yeah, I would separate that out, and certainly I, you know, they’ll say, that’s because they agree with those views in the White House.

MATTHEWS: Well, they didn’t need a script though, did they?

MCCLELLAN: No, well, probably not.

MiaBeastley
07-26-2008, 11:23 PM
Care to back that up?

Back what up??

ari1013
07-27-2008, 12:14 AM
Back up that claim with some facts. Please?

DenButsu
07-27-2008, 06:24 AM
In all the links the real news reporting was not criticized, what was? The close-ups, opinion polls, and I don't listen to the radio. I'm only talking about the tv channel.

I noticed this in the first link.

We watch FOX so you don't have to.

It's clear it's a liberal site. If you don't really watch Fox News and let these guys tell you all the bad of Fox then they are telling you it's a bad channel and you never decided for yourself.

Here is a conservative one

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

It's full of liberal media bias. If you only listen to them, then you don't get to decide for yourself.

It's kind of like what Fox Says "We Report You Decide". They are only asking people to watch and see for them selfs and then make a opinion

You don't think "opinion polls" are "real news"? News agencies that do their own polling regularly report the results as factual, objective reporting. The problem is, when the polls are actually push polls designed to elicit a specific result and sway public opinion. That's when the polls - and the reporting of them - cannot, by definition, be "fair and balanced".

redsox12
07-27-2008, 11:11 AM
That Fox motto would work if they provided news, but they provide administration talking points instead. Scott McClellan just admitted to it on Hardball last night:


I wouldn't expect McClellan to say anything less since he is trying to appeal to liberals now to sell his book.

Fox News is not this slam Obama channel people expect. If they were Obama wouldn't be doing an interview there. Hilliary did an interview with Bill O. and it helped her.

Hannity doesn't try to be unbiased but what makes the show fair is Alan Colmes, and they might be friends but if you watch the show, Alan really lets the republicans have it.

Basing the network on Hannity is like saying that MSNBC is liberal because of Andrea Mitchell and Keith O.

ari1013
07-27-2008, 03:55 PM
I wouldn't expect McClellan to say anything less since he is trying to appeal to liberals now to sell his book.

Fox News is not this slam Obama channel people expect. If they were Obama wouldn't be doing an interview there. Hilliary did an interview with Bill O. and it helped her.

Hannity doesn't try to be unbiased but what makes the show fair is Alan Colmes, and they might be friends but if you watch the show, Alan really lets the republicans have it.

Basing the network on Hannity is like saying that MSNBC is liberal because of Andrea Mitchell and Keith O.
It's not that it's slam Obama or slam McCain. It's that the show hosts simply parrot talking points from the administration. That's not something you should see with a free press. That's what keeps it from being the rightwinged version of MSNBC. It's literally an outlet for the administration. If Olbermann or Mitchell pull that type of crap for the upcoming Obama Administration, I'll be just as turned off from MSNBC.

MiaBeastley
07-27-2008, 04:56 PM
tell me what claim and i will back it up???

PHX-SOXFAN
07-28-2008, 12:22 PM
As someone who prides himself as being "in the middle" I can say without any kind of reservation that FOX News is the farthest thing in the world from 'fair and balanced'.

OK, maybe the second farthest, behind MSNBC. But it's close either way.

I concur with you being in the middle and appreciate your honesty. you are also correct in labeling fox 2nd to msnbc, the difference being msnbc doesn't try to hide it or claim to be fair or balanced.